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I'm hoping to get past some of the rhetoric and side issues (This thread is not about whether Obama is a Muslim sympathizer or not.) and see if people are willing to cut to the chase about what they see happening with the wall.

Please do make your predictions and would be nice if you to add on this question.

What percentage of illegals that have been freely crossing into our country will be stopped when the wall is completed and other measures are in place?

 

Simply passing a law that ANY "illegal" moneys by ANY MEANS sent to Mexico will be taxed (or even complete withheld until verification can be made, perhaps confiscated if found illegal) and actually ENFORCING THE LAW.

Simply requiring ID for anyone sending money to Mexico will define whether or not it is legally sent.

 

Climbing over a 35' wall (my prediction) can be very difficult, especially if one is trying to bring their family.

People seem to be under the impression that only Mexicans can dig tunnels but if there weren't measures to deal with digging tunnels the Palestinians would not have been deterred in Israel like they have been.

And then there is other ("civil") measures which can be developed to deal with "some effort" of yours/theirs.

Strawman much.

No one is suggesting such barbarian actions. Nor is it (your slippery slope) necessary to achieve the effects we need.

 

If they were digging tunnels so they could come over and bomb and kill us I would not opposed to a more "determined" response. Again, that is not case.

Admittedly, the gangsters and drugs are a vital threat but again we are not barbarians that would start killing everyone who tried and there are others ways to ensure the effectiveness of our wall. It is different situation than Israel - at least for now...

 

Yeah, but if they weigh that against what they are losing it may not seem so beneficial.

First of all, that ain’t a wall, it is a fence. It may be a deterrence but someone like me would simply go to the “low traffic area” and with an 18” step just jump up and pull myself over, in my younger days wouldn’t even need the step.

Again not good enough, give me a $10 shovel and a couple gallons of water and I’d dig under that in the middle of summer in a day.

Again I’m thinking more in line about a real wall, not a fence. Trump’s going to have to scrap that mess.

I’m getting the feeling if I asked you for shoes for Christmas and placed a picture of some Ostrich Cowboy Boots (…size 9 ½ ) in front of you I might want to consider myself lucky to get a pair of one-size-fits-all Flip-flops. Nah, I don’t believe you’re thinking bigly enough, Trump’s taste and pride in building will most likely mandate a serious remodel from a fence to a “wall”.

Might be considered a wee bit extreme...

Agree, although I think the regulations in large part will be abolished. I don’t like ongoing bills for things I don’t own so I don’t like leases, I expect Trump feels the same, but working something out where putting the wall right on the line isn’t practical should be an option.

 

Okay, but the point is your not thinking bigly enough.

Actually I live in it.

I have dug many 5' holes on my property, in the summer, granted I might want to bring a pickaxe for the caliche although bet I could find spot without it. In fact, I can name many chores I've done in the heat which compare...

(Disclaimer: In my "experience" of being a bit older and wiser I'm more likely today to rent the equipment.)

I'll just settle this with my prediction that your fence will be rebuilt with a wall. How about that?

Who cares. Dream big. I think we're looking a higher standard. I believe it will be rebuilt.

I'm expecting some technology to come with the fenc...er wall.

Noted, but still think much of the regulations will be abolished, solutions found. The bird can fly over the dern fence...