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Transfiguration.

I think this must be the Preterist Bible, because I can't find one that says this, not in the main text, anyway. It is the Lord Jesus speaking, so it would be natural for Him to us the First Person rather than the Third, as He does in verses 34 & 35. If He were using the Third Person, then I would expect to see autos to make it clear that the referent is 'Son of Man' back in verse 30.

 

The Jewish race has not passed away, so they will be around to say "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord" at His second coming!

 

IF Israel had received himas their King, the Millennium would have been ushered in right thrn and there!

 

And, of course, the millennium did begin then with Jesus' binding of strong man Satan.

 

The messianic Age would be one of no wars, famines, no crime, no disease, are we really in that now?

 

So we have no more warfare, diseases, or famines now?

 

Rev. 20:1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2 He seized the dragon, that ancient snake, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations any more until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.
4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshipped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth – Gog and Magog – and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.
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What does Scripture actually teach? No Scripture stands alone but is always related to prophecy & fulfilment.

Jesus said a lot about binding Satan, note particularly John 12 -

20 Now there were some Greeks among those who went up to worship at the festival. 21 They came to Philip, who was from Bethsaida in Galilee, with a request. ‘Sir,’ they said, ‘we would like to see Jesus.’ 22 Philip went to tell Andrew; Andrew and Philip in turn told Jesus.
23 Jesus replied, ‘The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified. 24 Very truly I tell you, unless a grain of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds.
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30 Jesus said, ‘This voice was for your benefit, not mine. 31 Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out. 32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.’​

Before Calvary, only one people group comprised the "people of God." At Calvary, the prince of this world will be driven out. So the nations would be drawn to Jesus. How that works out becomes clear over the next few weeks, with the great commission to all nations.

Satan is bound & his captives, both Jew & Gentile are freed by the Gospel. Christ ascends to his heavenly throne, but commissions the Apostles & the church down the centuries to call sinners from all nations into his heavenly kingdom. Note the conditions during the millennium -

John sees the souls of the martyrs. The first resurrection is not a bodily resurrection - it is salvation. See John 5:24-30. That spiritual resurrection is distinct from the last day resurrection.

Your posts claim -

Rev. 20 says at the end of the millennium the number of the wicked is as the sand on the seashore. Clearly it cannot be a "golden age" with no wars etc. It is clearly the present age.

The general resurrection at the return of Christ is described in Rev. 20:11 onwards & corresponds to the same general resurrection described in John 5:28-30.

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The first resurrection at the second coming are the saints, the second one 1000 years later is for the lost,,,,,

 

My BIG problem with preterism/partial preterism is that so many apocalyptic upheavals in the scripture happened WITHOUT ANYONE NOTICING IT!!

Like I slept through the end of the world!!

Nuff said.

 

Agreed!

If this or any previous 1000 years were the kingdom ruling of Christ, then the Scriptures have great areas in which there is error.

Either one takes the millennial reign of Christ as the prophets and apostles present as factually going to take place, or one must highly manipulate the Scriptures into bits and pieces in a hodgepodge presentation in which historical events alone deny the presentation.

Perhaps the statement made by our Lord about the taking of one in the field or in bed and leaving the other is actually not pertaining to the saved versus lost, but those that look and long for His return keeping the oil and lamps filled, in comparison to those who would claim such teaching is all immature and foolhardy and have no oil. Those who are ready will be taken, those not well oiled, will not?

Just wondering.

 

No, Satan has never been bound. Proof? There's not one period of human history that was free of human evil.

 

No, Jesus is not yet occupying David's throne. remember His parable about the nobleman who went on a long journey to receive his kingdom. Jesus is that nobleman, of course, & He hasn't yet returned from that journey.

David's throne (rulership) is the fact of a descendant of David's ruling over Israelis somewhere. And remember, while all Jews are Israelis, not all Israelis are Jews. There are still the other tribes of israel to be accounted for.

 

No, the millenium has not yet come. Preterism is false.

If Satan were bound, or "abyssed", he'd be unable to attack the saints as he does now thru false doctrines (such as preterism) and charlatans such as have been active in every time period. & has done ever since man first sinned. He has never been confined yet.

 

Easy to see the events Jesus peophesied in Matt. 24 & Luke 21. First came the "days of vengeance" Jesus had earlier prophesied against the Jews & their religious leadership, holding them responsible for the murders of all saints from Abel up to that time. Then came forther punishment for their murder of Jesus, a punishment that lasted thru the nazi holocaust. The dispersion of the Jews by the Romans under Hadrian, 135-136 AD was worse than the destruction of Jerusalem. After that, the Jews weren't welcome anywhere they went for centuries.

There's been war/rumor of war ever since shortly after Jesus was here. When Jerusalem was rebuilt after 70 AD, it's been trampled underfoot by gentiles ever since, thru today.

The great trib certainly hasn't yet come. WW2 was the greatest trib the world has yet seen, & it's obvious it wasn't the GREAT trib Jesus prophesied.

And Jesus didn't mention the coming beast/antichrist prophesied by Daniel & Paul, & later by Jesus Himself in the Revelation.

But Jesus said that IMMEDIATELY AFTER the great trib, there'd be a great cosmological disturbance, during which He'd return.

Now, some people try to render those prophecies as symbolic/metaphorical, but we've seen LITERAL fulfillment of them so far, in what's happened to Jerusalem & the Jews. Jesus did NOT intersperse literal & symbolic prophecies together; His answers to His disciples' questions were all LITERAL. I believe history and reality have borne this out so far.

 

You could be a VERY popular preacher - you read the Scriptures and preach your sermon - a one-line tweet!

Please consider what the Scriptures say before you tweet your opinion.

Now go back & read my post #28, look up the Scriptures, consider their meaning & how they relate to each other & give a proper reply based on Scripture, not opinion.

 

Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. Titus 3:6,7
For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life. Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit. 2 Cor 5:4.5
And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it. Rom 8:23-25