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The KJV...the "Model T Bible Version

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by robycop3, Mar 14, 2020.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    The Kjv is a good translation, can be used by Christians, but is not perfect, nor only valid English translation, and versions such as Nkjv and Nas better than it now!
     
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    not in the scripture....
     
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    It is my understanding that the oldest Greek texts reportadly have higher number of textual issues. And typically are the bases of the "bad" textual readings.
     
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    No one posting on this thread as stated no kjv period, just that there are now better versions if one chooses to us them!
     
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    you mean those here like Origen and Logos 1560 who know textual criticism, as against vast majority of KJVO who do not?
     
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    What makes you think the creeds are not based on scripture? Ever time you say what you believe you write a creed, so to speak.
     
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    Can you prove that?
     
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    How do you know?
     
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    he is saying that the Kjv is a good translation, but was not inspired, nor perfect!
     
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    Do you agree that KJV Only is a cult?
     
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    So what is the point of the thread? Actually it is just a pointless thread debated numerous times by Roby who has a Model A.
     
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    No, that's not what was said.
    That wasn't the thrust of the thread.
    The thread was a grotesque insult on the translation.
     
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    No, he was comparing it to a car that would be woefully inadequate and FAR superceded by essentially anything crafted in the last 100 years.

    You are putting words into his mouth.
    He wasn't making some benign and meaningless statement that no one would respond to like you just posted.
    He unnecessarily and grotesquely insulted it.
    That's what he does.
    He always does that.

    It's disgusting.
     
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    I don't think Logos would consider himself any kind of authority on textual criticism. I don't know about Origen.
    I'm sure he has a decent working and cursory knowledge of its main ideas....and enough for a few educated opinions, but not much more....so do I. So do a lot of people.
    I have just enough to know he is absolutely no expert on the topic. He doesn't pretend to be either. Nor does he have to be to argue this topic intelligently. He tends to cite other people he considers to be trustworthy experts....which is fine.
    My guess he has about that much expertise; possibly a little more.
    Certainly, he doesn't seem to understand it on anything like an expert level, and I doubt he'd claim to.

    You seem to post as though anyone who asserts everything you already think to be true and can do it polysyllabically is some kind of expert.
    How easily impressed are you?

     
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    Based on what? I know what your understanding is, but what do you base it on?
     
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    That depends on what you mean by that.
     
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    I would say that they make the Kjv out to be something that not even the translators themselves ever did, as they saw the need to revise and better their efforts in the future, as not a finished and perfect work!
     
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    Based upon their posted knowledge, would see those 2, along with john of japan as the textual critics here on Board!
     
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    Can use Creeds and confessions, but the Bible alone was inspired by God!
     
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    Yes, and I don't think @1689Dave was arguing that they were inspired.
     
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