Will vaccine division create party splits?

All,
Normally I don't come into this arena because of the overwhelming tendency that exists to disobey the Lord in matters of personal conduct, and to get caught up in the back-and forth that leads to behavior that we as Christians should be avoiding.
However, I've done quite a bit of independent research of my own and have a few things to share:

1) The stats on CoVID-19, after over 1.5 years of it being in widespread circulation, have resulted in a roughly a 99.5-7% survival rate across the board.
This is not the killer that many initially thought that it would be. A matter of serious concern? Yes. A worldwide disaster? Not even close, IMO.
4.7 million deaths worldwide as of the writing of this post ( and there are things that have been around for a lot longer than that and, cumulatively, kill at least that many people each and every year in the world ):
Global Health Estimates: Life expectancy and leading causes of death and disability
The top 10 causes of death
FastStats
COVID Live Update: 225,305,713 Cases and 4,641,733 Deaths from the Coronavirus - Worldometer

2) The survival rate dips markedly in older people ( 70+ ), as the body's immune system starts to fail with age, but still maintains a fairly high survival rate.

3) The survival rate in young people ( 18- and especially the very young ), is phenominally high...better that 99.99%, or so, from what I understand.

4) The delta variant is making people sick, whether or not they have been vaccinated with the currently-developed vaccines.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/93830
Barnstable Covid-19 Outbreak: Fully Vaccinated Can Spread Coronavirus Delta Variant, Says CDC
Most COVID-19 cases in Massachusetts outbreak among vaccinated, says CDC
CDC shares 'pivotal discovery' on COVID-19 breakthrough infections that led to new mask guidance
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/30/provincetown-covid-outbreak-vaccinated/
CDC: 74% of people infected in Massachusetts outbreak vaccinated

5) Most of the currently-developed vaccines are either produced using mRNA technology, or DNA technology.

They were not developed using the old, "standardized" method that makes use of an inactive or dead component of the actual virus.
This is new technology, and was largely unproven in anything outside of clinical trials until relatively recently...and has not been used, to my knowledge, among large groups of people until the SARS-CoV2 outbreak.

That, in itself, should give anyone pause.

6) There are side effects of the new technologies that are only recently ( after a mere 9 months of being available ) starting to surface and are beginning to be of serious concern. Many people have developed faster heart rates, extreme tiredness, CoVID-19 symptoms lasting several weeks past what was initially expected, heart inflammation and others.

There are even some reports of deaths among those who have received the vaccine and have never been infected by SARS-CoV2.

 

7) There are performance issues that involve the new technologies that appear to not have had time to be fully evaluated, and the vaccines are not acting as initially believed.
In other words and for example, what scientists thought was going to happen regarding spike proteins staying largely at the injection site, is proving to be quite the opposite.

8) The "delta" variant was present and being reported in India as early as last December, 2020. There is no way for the vaccination status of Americans or those of other countries to have contributed to the mutation of SARS-CoV2 and the development of "delta", because the current vaccines were not even released for distribution until mid-way through the same month.

Fact:
Viruses mutate, some believe to overcome the human body's own natural resistances, and some believe for other reasons.
That's what viruses do, they mutate. No amount of vaccination will stop mutations, and the history of influenza strains, for example, should prove it.

9) "Delta" ( and others ) has not had time to fully circulate, neither have vaccine manufacturers had time to develop ones for the current variant(s).

10) Getting vaccinated now for variants that are resistant to the current vaccines is almost useless, and everything is very nearly back to square 1, IMO.
People are getting sick from "delta", and the vaccines are not preventing it.
The virus is mutating, and the specialists don't really know why.

This makes being vaccinated with obsoleted vaccines a lesson in futility... as to me, the medical community is simply "chasing the backside of the curve" and cannot realistically prevent or stop the illness ( and never really could ).

Opinion:
Do everything that one can to boost one's own God-given and designed immune system, seek the Lord for medical advice, and ( ultimately ) do not rely on fallen men for the solution.

11) From my perspective, the current vaccines were rushed into production after less than a year of trials, and were released-to-public with U.S. FDA Emergency-Use authorization.

In other words, the vaccine manufacturers were ( apparently ) exempted from being held accountable for any side-effects leading to death and / or debilitation while the vaccines were under Emergency-Use authorization.
Patients ( and their families ) who experienced severe side effects leading to extended periods of recovery ( or even death ) were given no recourse for recouping their losses during this time period.

I personally know of at least several at my own workplace ( and 1 in my own department ) who have had problems with the new vaccines, and one death at my workplace due to complications of the vaccine + CoVID-19. Due to privacy regulations, it's not clear whether he received the vaccine first and was subsequently exposed to SARS-CoVID2, or the other way around.

12) Surgical masks do not work in preventing virus transmission, and any military active duty / retired / veteran personnel with NBC training, civilian worker in the Hazardous Materials field, or medical professional ( who is being honest ) will tell you that the only way to guarantee not being contaminated or exposed to something toxic or life-threatening, is a full environment suit with SCBA or MOP 4 gear with gas mask and bio-filters...

...and those are only meant to be a temporary solution until one can remove themselves from the hazardous environment.



Apologies for the "wall of text" in these two posts, but most of you already know my love of being detailed and my habit of being as thorough as possible on many subjects.

Someday I'll try to better condense things for easier reading.

 

The above stated and to answer the OP:

Yes, I believe that this will result in political party divisions; They are already happening.
Yes, I believe that this will ultimately result in a fundamental split ( that already exists and is only being driven wider ) between those who hold to individual rights and freedoms ( libertarians ), and those who look at society as a whole as being obligated to sacrifice the good of the one for the good of the whole ( nationalists, fascists, socialists, communists / Marxists, etc ), and everything in between.

As I see it,
The United States of America ( and the world at-large ) is ( and has been ) experiencing a polarization between "conservatives" and "liberals" for a great many years now, and it's only getting worse.
What we are now seeing could lead to violence in the future ( it already has, and I could cite many examples ) if people don't find a way to compromise.

While I could share my views on this forum about how this world is being run and what it would take to fix it, ultimately it would serve no purpose other than to echo the thoughts of many here, and to fuel the arguments of others.

At the end of the day we should be obeying the Lord in matters of personal conduct and toward the powers that be ( which are ordained of God ),
and leave the fight for our rights up to Him.
We should be praying for the Lord's mercies and kindnesses in the midst of this chaos, and not tearing down our fellow man in print or in word.
We should be looking to Him for everything, and not to this world's leaders, or medicines or doctors, or lawyers or politicians.


As believers in Jesus Christ, this isn't our world...
We are just passing through, looking for a city and country wherein dwells righteousness, as Abraham was.

To avoid contention, these will be my only replies in this thread.

May God bless you all.

 

This woman nailed it!

https://www.inspiringquotes.us/imag...d.jpg?ezimgfmt=rs:382x478/rscb4/ng:webp/ngcb4

 

From here in out, fools will run things and they will do it by paying lip service to Gods wants and the wants & needs of there fellow citizens. And what that means is that your individual freedoms and liberties are in peril. I for one stand on the shoulders of my ancestors, people who struggled to be citizens of the United States of America and fought and died in order to keep our freedoms in place. I’m a proud American, not the kind that locks up pastors for having services.

 

Twice you stated there is the “possibility” that a COVID positive person could be charged with a crime for not disclosing their condition and it led to infections.

And yes, you made the direct comparison to HIV laws which criminalized non-disclosure.

My reading comprehension is just fine. Your memory of what you wrote; not so much.

peace to you

 

Yes, but only temporarily, 'til death do us un-part.

 

I did not know a 99.75% survival rate equated serious health consequences.

 

except you do not know that with vaccines we have no idea what the long term effects of the vaccine is.

 

I would say I am being very consistent. My point is that this is an infringement on freedom. It is not a power that the President has.

 

And what we know is this vaccine is not vetted.

 

Apples and oranges