Featured Unqualified???

1. The positions are filled.
2. By the Bilaws, he could be voted out by a simple majority vote at a regular or called business meeting. The Church is only 4 years old. He hasva kind of cult following among the new converts that would make that hard. They don't know that he is as lost on doctrines and hermeneutics as a goose in a hail storm. I don't have a desire to vote him out. I just let him do his thing and I do mine. We are good friends away from church, but at church we agree that we are going to disagree on about everything. He can't baffle me with his bull crap, so he gave up trying.
I have no desire to change him and he will not change me.
3.I have dealt with church splits and pastor firings so many times, that I am taking a break from such for a while.

 

That is a huge question

what does a church do when no one is qualified?

does it fold up?

 

Idk

maybe ask another church to provide a pastor?

 

Or Bible Teacher

 

You have to grow. Whether C or A, if you have basically no people, you have to grow.

The solution for a church like I am in is slow and subtle teaching of sound doctrine. I do teach a bit. It is always so concrete that even though it rules the pastor a bit, he does not dare counter it.

 

A friend of mine faced a similar problem. He was a member at a Baptist church that was Armenian in nature. After hearing a sovereign grace doctrine, he as an associate pastor, preached a sermon about his new understanding. The pastor who was prominent in some Baptist circles, condemn his message openly before the church.

The associate pastor confided in pastor at another church and asked him if should leave the church because of the confrontation. His pastor friend advised him to stay and continue to preach what he saw until the church either accepted his preaching or excluded him. They excluded him and one of the members at the closing of the meeting told him, "I agree with what you are teaching but I am too old to change." You cannot control the outcome of what you teach, but the Lord can.
The associate preacher was called to preach at another church where he has been pastor for several decades.

As a member of the body of Christ which you attend, it is your problem. Your approach to continue to preach and stand for sound doctrine is a mandate given to the church and its members in the edifying of the body of Christ.

I hope this is of some help.

 

I was in this boat once as an associate pastor of a church.
1. If no one qualified to do a job then it just doesn't get done.
2. It sounds like a pastor lead church so change will have to be gradual.
3. As ap of education and outreach, my insistence on change and as rebuffed.

I stayed to fight the fight until a similar position came open in another town, then God moved me there (funny story actually), the last time on staff at said church I tried to have a deep theological conversation with said pastor and he could not even keep up, the next day I left for the other position.

 

Church growth theory today unfortunately revolves around C vs A. The pragmatic A's and the sovereign C's. My point was that no matter which umbrella of church growth theory you fall under, it can be agreed that your church MUST grow.

 

Salty, you ask questions and then complain about the answers. You asked about not having qualified leadership. The reason you don't have any is that you don't have any people. To solve your problem, you must grow.
My response was on topic.
You posting threads like they going out of style in an attempt to generate traffic, then you complain about all the answers being off topic, when they are not at all off topic.

To have leaders, you need people. If you don't have any people, you don't have any leaders. You need leaders,.....GROW!

 

Another reason is you don't have any people. A person has to be there to be qualified.

 

Salty started this thread by quoting me. The thread started on my Orig content, but ok, I am off topic if you say so.
I did directly answer his questions in post 2.