The real Problem are the Anti Israel Palestinians.

(I'm only going to respond to the last post you post in a series).

No. The Palestines that were and are still firing rockets into Israel from Gaza lived in Gaza. The Palestinians who built explosives in apartments in Gaza lived in Gaza. The Hamas officers who were also hospital workers in Gaza were living in Gaza. The Hasmas soldiers who were citizens of Gaza were also living in Gaza.

The citizens of Gaza who celebrated the mass murder were living in Gaza.

War is not mass murder (by biblical definition). Israel struck the military significant targets, which were by concent of the people of Gaza in civilian locations.

To be fair, in Gaza there were no civilian location. They were civilian/ military locations.

The people wanted Hamas as their government for a reason. Hamas supported their ideology.

Do you hate Jews? Yes, I think that is obvious.

Did you celebrate when Palestine murdered 1,200 civilians and kidnapped 130 more (to include little children)? I don't know. Given your posts I believe you probably did, but I do not know as a fact.


The Palestines are in control of their own situation. If they want you prevent deaths and end the war all they have to do is return the hostages.

All the citizens of Gaza had to do was tell Istael where the hostages were being hid within Gaza (they knew because they were among the peoole).

The guilt is on Palestine. They can easily end the war. But their hatred for Israel will not allow it. Their ideology is for the larger Muslim influence. It always has been.

Why you are not simply calling for the people of Gaza to give up the hostages and end the war is beyond me. But I believe it is because of your hatred for Jewish children.

 

I don't believe we do. I think our disagreement is simply one of definitions. This is because you are antisemitic.

You indicate through your posts (especially your questions) that Gaza was justified in committing mass murder because those murdered, although civilians and children, were Jewish. Therefore Israel replying with war to mass murder is mass murder itself.

Where we actually disagree is that I believe Palestinian and Israeli lives are of equal value where as you present Jewish children as a little less than human, and therefore not worth defending if it results in war.


All Palestines have to do is return the hostages.

Israel is actually justified in continuing its war until the hostages are returned. Israel would be justified in completely destroying the Palestines because of their mass murder, but Israel is merely asking for the hostages to be returned.

 

Except we are not, but it is very telling you believe so.

Many members have already pointed out your hatred for Jewish people. I am not sure why they pointed it out as your hatred seems very much on the surface.


You do not like the fact that Palestine committed mass murder on Oct 7 because it was only the Palestinian government and soldiers.

Apply that to your argument that Israel, by waging war, is killing people.

Your argument is dishonest.

The majority of the citizens of Israel are not waging war against Palestine. It is the government and its military. But you say "Israel".

A major difference is where the citizens of Gaza celebrated when they committed mass murder the majority of Israel expresses grief at the human loss (a difference in ideologies).

But you do need to be more honest on this board.

If it was only the Palestinian government and Palestine military - Not Palestine - that committed that mass murder then it is dishonest to say Israel killed anybody in war.

The fact is, however, that you are defending the murder of 1,200 civilians and the kidnapping of 130 civilians while crying that Israel decided to defend against thos happening again and fight until Palestine returns the hostages.

 

Have you ever considered that instead if hating a people group your position may be a lot better if you simply wanted Palestine to return the people they kidnapped and the war end?

 

I as well (I refrain from politics).

When I say Israel is justified in the war I don't mean they are a just country.

An athiest heart surgeon and an atheist abortion doctor are both unjustified themselves, but we can speak of the abortion doctor as being evil in a way that the heart surgeon is not when comparing the two.

In this case, Palestine is evil. They committed mass murder causing a war they could end simply by returning the hostages. Israel's demand that their people be returned for war to end is not an unreasonable demand.

But I agree with you. I also have no desire to be "of the World" and government into battle...or...limp into battle very slowly.