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President Trump's Cabinet

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Benjamin, Nov 13, 2024 at 4:43 AM.

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  1. Chief of Staff – Susie Wiles

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  2. Border Czar – Tom Homan

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  3. Department of Homeland Security - Kristi Noem

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  4. CIA Director – John Ratcliffe

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  5. US Ambassador to Israel – Mike Huckabee

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  6. Ambassador to the United Nations -Elise Stefanik

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  7. Defense Secretary - Pete Hegseth

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  8. Secretary of State - Marco Rubio

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  9. Department of Government Efficiency - Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy

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  10. Environmental Protection Agency administrator -Lee Zeldin

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  1. Benjamin

    Benjamin Well-Known Member
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    I find this to be quite a dynamic and exciting team, what say you? It's actually hard for me to limit my favorite picks but I figured I might as well list them in a poll.

    A couple others wouldn't fit, neither of which I am not as familiar with as the others, but I like what I'm seeing here too.

    Deputy chief of staff for policy - Stephen Miller
    Environmental Protection Agency administrator -Lee Zeldin
     
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    Two duplicate threads erased at request of poster.
     
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    Attorney General - Matt Gaetz, :Roflmao well, I guess the Democrats deserve this. :Biggrin

    Guess we'll see if he get through the Senate.
     
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    IMO, an excellent choice, but he'll never be approved.
     
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    Yeah, it's fun thinking about the impact this would have on the lawlessness and abuse of the DOJ being called out and dealt with.

    Its going to be an ugly battle to try to get him in, but you know, taking into account the way we've been blessed lately, and Trump's influence on setting the tone for cooperation and progress according to his exciting plans, - I wouldn't count Gaetz out just yet.
     
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    These are people with a proven track record of getting things done. Not people whose qualifications are based on race or gender identity.
     
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    Not so sure about that. Repubs can point to the highly partisan and biased Garland as a precedence set by the Dems

    peace to you
     
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    ...the shadow government is cornered and going to 'fight for it's life' to keep him from that job.

    I'd luv to see him get it.

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    Besides, I question if Senate repubs have the will or the guts to fight for his confirmation.

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    Gaetz Could Get Confirmed Without the Senate: How Recess Appointments Work
     
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    Nope… not impressed
     
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    SOS runs the state dept and implements the POTUS agenda.

    The rank and file will attempt to undermine every policy every chance. The SOD needs to be ready to fire everyone who “resists” DT agenda.

    peace to you
     
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    "Your president may easily become king. Your Senate is so imperfectly constructed that your dearest rights may be sacrificed to what may be a small minority; and a very small minority may continue for ever unchangeably this government, altho horridly defective. Where are your checks in this government? Your strongholds will be in the hands of your enemies. It is on a supposition that your American governors shall be honest that all the good qualities of this government are founded; but its defective and imperfect construction puts it in their power to perpetrate the worst of mischiefs should they be bad men; and, sir, would not all the world, blame our distracted folly in resting our rights upon the contingency of our rulers being good or bad? Show me that age and country where the rights and liberties of the people were placed on the sole chance of their rulers being good men without a consequent loss of liberty! I say that the loss of that dearest privilege has ever followed, with absolute certainty, every such mad attempt.

    If your American chief be a man of ambition and abilities, how easy is it for him to render himself absolute! The army is in his hands, and if he be a man of address, it will be attached to him, and it will be the subject of long meditation with him to seize the first auspicious moment to accomplish his design, and, sir, will the American spirit solely relieve you when this happens? I would rather infinitely–and I am sure most of this Convention are of the same opinion–have a king, lords, and commons, than a government so replete with such insupportable evils. If we make a king we may prescribe the rules by which he shall rule his people, and interpose such checks as shall prevent him from infringing them; but the president, in the field, at the head of his army, can prescribe the terms on which he shall reign master, so far that it will puzzle any American ever to get his neck from under the galling yoke. I can not with patience think of this idea. If ever he violate the laws, one of two things will happen: he will come at the head of the army to carry everything before him, or he will give bail, or do what Mr. Chief Justice will order him. If he be guilty, will not the recollection of his crimes teach him to make one bold push for the American throne? Will not the immense difference between being master of everything and being ignominiously tried and punished powerfully excite him to make this bold push? But, sir, where is the existing force to punish him? Can he not, at the head of his army, beat down every opposition? Away with your president! we shall have a king: the army will salute him monarch; your militia will leave you, and assist in making him king, and fight against you: and what have you to oppose this force? What will then become of you and your rights? Will not absolute despotism ensue?"

    - excerpt from Patrick Henry's speech on June 5, 1788, to the Virginia Ratifying Convention

    Rest at Liberty or Empire? - Patrick Henry's Red Hill
     
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    Seek out the truths and maybe you will be after American Exceptionalism takes shape on the stage as Trump's team Makes America Great Again.
     
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    I think the days Republican inaction are coming to an end as the people have spoken and accountability is being expected.

    I think a good argument is that it is NOT good time for any senators to be crossing Trump, they all have friends and family that want jobs, and in the end, a vote against Matt Gaetz is a vote against the incoming President who just won a decisive victory.
     
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    "Your president may easily become king. Your Senate is so imperfectly constructed that your dearest rights may be sacrificed to what may be a small minority; and a very small minority may continue for ever unchangeably this government, altho horridly defective. Where are your checks in this government? Your strongholds will be in the hands of your enemies. It is on a supposition that your American governors shall be honest that all the good qualities of this government are founded; but its defective and imperfect construction puts it in their power to perpetrate the worst of mischiefs should they be bad men; and, sir, would not all the world, blame our distracted folly in resting our rights upon the contingency of our rulers being good or bad? Show me that age and country where the rights and liberties of the people were placed on the sole chance of their rulers being good men without a consequent loss of liberty! I say that the loss of that dearest privilege has ever followed, with absolute certainty, every such mad attempt." - Patrick Henry
     
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    Under Trump and the great team he is building, the people, who have spoken, are taking back the country and control of their own liberty as per the design of our forefathers. Therefore, an argument attempting to compare Trump to a ruling king begins with a false premise and would be much more applicable the outgoing misfits who were trying to gain power over the people.
     
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    No, sir.

    The American people - both MAGA and Progressives - are like ancient Israel when they rejected the rule of God and demanded a strong man - a king - to rule over them.

    Both MAGA and Progressives have rejected the rule of the U.S. Constitution(as flawed as it was compared to the Articles of Confederation of 1781) and demanded a strong man - an overriding national government whose size, reach, scope, goes into every nook and cranny of American life - with a de facto king to oversee it.

    And the blame belongs to all those folks who voted to reject the Articles of Confederation of 1781 and accept the Constitution.

    One would have expected those folks to have reasoned through what would become of the Constitution and where it would eventually end up; but they failed to do so, and the United States has been and will continue to pay the price for their failure.
     
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    Such pessimism and negativity, and at a time that I believe our country is about to shine. I'm so glad to be moving on from the ways this country has been being taken down! I really do find it a shame that you can't be more optimistic
    I think I hear you basically arguing, with a biblical comparison, that Trump is going to be a dictating king, as per the typical TDS talking points, and it appears you are now trying to defend your false premise of a kingship (strong man/dictator) to support that argument, - but I didn’t start this thread to address such talking points. Honestly, I tire of the corrupt and deranged negativity that has been plaguing this country and holding back our greatness.

    The people have spoken, we chose Trump and his policies, and I think his leadership will achieve many of the changes that we so desperately need and have been asking for. My focus in starting this thread is to discuss the influential members of the new Cabinet team being put into place by our new leader that I believe will actually honor in the job of fulfilling the will of the people, instead of their own pockets and thirst for power over the people for a change.

    Personally, I am enjoying a positive new outlook for our country and I am working on putting the ugliness and arguments of the last 4 years, that have lost, into the past as I can now look forward to the future of our country governing the way it should while it is putting the power of people first for a change.
     
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