Westcott and Hort Onlyism

If these "so called" changes in the KJV nullifies it as the word of God; then how is the NKJV any better? it has MANY changes in the form of verses from the RSV & NASV in it..

[ November 06, 2002, 12:07 PM: Message edited by: Japheth ]

 

You apparently misunderstood me. They are not "so called" changes; they are documented changes.

I know that the NKJV is the Word of God because of his promise in Psalm 12:6-7 that says God will keep his word for every generation. The KJV was adequate until the time of the NKJV. The NKJV translators did not call an adulterous, power-hungry king a defender of the faith. The KJV translators did. Therefore, their work could not be perfect.

If I can, I will liken the KJV to the Geneva. The Geneva was good until the KJV came. The KJV improved upon the perfect word of God. God however was not done with the english Bible. The NKJV is the inspired, inerrant word of God.

Those corruptions you refer to are in every translation. The KJV has the same readings as other corrupt translation in certain passages. That hardly nullifies that the God of the universe who spoke creation into existence could perfectly preserve his word.

I would appreciate it if you would not doubt the accuracy of God's Word, the NKJV.

 

Request denied, those changes in the NKJV are also documented;1 thessalonians 5:22, Matthew 20:20, James 5:16, 2Thessalonians 2:7, and Job 35:3.. look em up, they read like the RSV & NASV
(AD Nauseam, Ad Infinitium).

[ November 06, 2002, 01:31 PM: Message edited by: Japheth ]

 

Japheth, the goal isn't to be a KJV. The KJV is full of mistakes (thus the need to constantly revise it).

The NKJV is the preserved word of God (see Psalm 12:6-7).

Btw, the RSV and the NASB just got lucky in their translation of those passages.

 

But they aren't changes at all! The NKJV is simply correcting the additions and changes found in the KJV.

The NKJV is the perfect, preserved words of God... other versions including the KJV contain the word of God and might be of minor usefulness but they aren't perfect.

Why the KJV introduces a terrible heresy in Job 35:3. Namely that being cleansed of sin is not profitable to us.

You really need to get rid of your perversion of God's words and pick up that straight stick... the NKJV.

You should know your acrostic algebra!

Starting with "KJV" you recognize that "K" stands for king. Now "James" in the Hebrew means one who supplants... so we supplant the "J" by dropping it from the equation but keep the "v". Now we know that the initials of the creator of the TR are "DE". We also know that he was RCC and wrote his scholarly works in Latin, "IL."

So let's add it all up:

"K"= King
King +DE+V+IL= King Devil.

If you can't see this clear proof that the KJV is a perversion of God's words then you must be blinded by new age scholars.

If you haven't realized it by now, this is just an attempt to demonstrate absurdity by being absurd. None of what I wrote is legitimate. However it is just as legitimate as most of the arguments used by KJVO's against other translations.

[ November 06, 2002, 02:02 PM: Message edited by: Scott J ]

 

Those changes came straight from the RSV & NASV(Gal 5:9);which came from the Alexandrian,Vaticanus, and Sinaiticus,that came from a barefoot,self-castrated( Matt 19:12) pro-science,pro philosophy heritic from Alexandria, Egypt.. What,me give up my God inspired, Perfect word of God,the KJV, for a New King Jimmy? AS IF

[ November 06, 2002, 01:45 PM: Message edited by: Japheth ]

 

Japheth, you should simply because God promised to preserve his word (see Psalm 12:6-7). Why use something that is not in its entirety the word of God? I personally recommend the Thompson's NKJV.

Btw, it seems to me that you disregard the promise of God for confused history. Why?

 

Japheth, I edited my earlier post to add information that might help you find the truth.

 

Here are some of those "so called" changes:

Ps.69:32 "seek good" to "seek God"

Jer.49:1 "inherit God" to "inherit Gad"

Mark 10:18 "there is no man good, but one" to "there is none good but one"

I Cor. 4:9 "approved unto death" to "appointed unto death"

I am sure glad those changes were made, aren't you?

 

No, the NKJV just follows the TR better.

 

Did you ever stop to think the reason that the versions are the same in places because they are truer to the translation of the text than the KJV or that they are putting it in terms a majority of people would understand today? I think that it is hardly fair that you paint the picture that the NKJV translators sat down with a RSV and NASV and decided to copy it in places. Seems to me the translations just correctly translated the same verses.

By the way PTW, I would highly recommend Thompson NKJV as well!

[ November 06, 2002, 02:17 PM: Message edited by: neal4christ ]

 

Those changes came straight from the RSV & NASV(Gal 5:9);which came from the Alexandrian,Vaticanus, and Sinaiticus,that came from a barefoot,self-castrated( Matt 19:12) pro-science,pro philosophy heritic from Alexandria, Egypt.. What,me give up my God inspired, Perfect word of God,the KJV, for a New King Jimmy? AS IF </font>[/QUOTE]Repeating a false claim does not make it any truer, the NKJV very clearly follows the TR text source and not the Alexandrian/W&H. If you are pro-TR you have reason to criticise many modern translations on the basis of text source, but not the NKJV.

Eric

 

I have. I own it. In fact, I'm working on project which shows Waite's booklet has almost everything out of context, and/or ignores where they plainly stated the opposite or where the KJV-translators had a similar view.

</font>[/QUOTE]Brian, Are you saying that this icon of KJVOnlyism might be treating the facts dishonestly?
</font>[/QUOTE]go to it, Brian! let us know when the book's ready.

for now, those interested can check out this review of Waite's "Defined KJB"--http://www.post1.com/home/amarillo/revDKJB.htm

i wonder how his "Dean Burgon Society" is doing these days.

 

Ya, ya. I know you've been waiting for this, and I know I'm slow. Sorry, I'll let you know when I have something available on the web, I'll put it up in pieces as they are finished.