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About CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations)

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, Aug 1, 2005.

  1. LadyEagle

    LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    The rest of the article is here & includes historical and funding info re: CAIR -

    http://haganah.us/harchives/004622.html

    There is a lot of information on the web about CAIR and I will post additional information on CAIR when I get time.

    Two recent threads in the News forum (now closed at the 3-page limit) were about CAIR involvement.

    They are here:

    http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/3683.html

    http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/3682.html
     
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    Thanks, LE. Norquist is associated with CAIR, isn't he?
     
  3. LadyEagle

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    While your question about Grover Norquist seems to be off topic because there is another thread running about him, it really isn't. All these groups are related and all have terrorist ties with foreign governments and Wahhabi Islamofacism. (Libya, Saudi Arabia, etc.)

    Norquist has certainly has been a speaker at a number of CAIR events and has helped orchestrate CAIR access to the White House, according to many articles out there on the web. Grover Norquist was given the seed money to found the Islamic Institute by (terrorist) Abdurahman Alamoudi, who had close ties with the Clinton White House and with this WH, as well. For those who aren't familiar with Alamoudi, he is one of several who have been video taped screaming death to America, etc., in public places.

    You can read more about his Libyan connection and even see copies of some of the checks here:

    http://michellemalkin.com/archives/000318.htm

    and more here:

    http://www.citizensoldier.org/norquist.html

    and more here:

    http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/gaffney_on_norquist.html

    The Islamofascist ties to key players who craft American domestic and foreign policy is beyond the pale.

    In times past, it would have been called treason.
     
  4. LadyEagle

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    From last year - I don't know if the poor Congressman settled or not.

    http://www.traditionalvalues.org/modules.php?sid=1318

    And as a followup on Talk Show Host Michael Graham, now CAIR is demanding he be fired.
     
  5. JamesBell

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    Luckily, I think the public as a whole is starting to learn what CAIR is actually about. They have made the mistake of being too well known. When you get popular it is harder to hide the truth from the public.

    Sadly, I don't know if it matters. There are enough people that dislike our nation enough to feel good about supporting a group, just because it speaks poorly of American and her allies. Those on the far left that are simply anti-conservative will support anything that makes Bush look bad. Some on the extreme right will follow suit.
     
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    LE,

    Thanks. I didn't mean to derail the thread, only to make the point of the influence held by CAIR and to help reinforce the point you had made in the other thread.
     
  7. LadyEagle

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    I know it, FTR. No problem. [​IMG]
     
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    please pass this along to as many as possible
    we must stop cair

    Urge your House Rep. not to sign "Ramadan" Resolution


    Urge your House Rep. not to sign "Ramadan" Resolution
    Please click on the left bar "Contact Congress" and start calling your elected officials to urge them not to sign this resolution. Send this to all your friends and associates nationwide and urge them to do the same. Please urge your friends to subscribe to receive our emails and action alerts so they can become a voice affecting their community and our nation. Brigitte

    DC Watson urges you to urge your Congressman to reject dhimmitude:

    By DC Watson

    If you've ever watched a ventriloquist act, it's likely that you eventually came around to realizing that it wasn't really the dummy doing all the talking. It took me a while, but finally, I did.

    It appears that now we have a certain group of Muslims -- in particular, the Council on American Islamic Relations -- attempting to put words into the mouths of our elected officials by urging Muslims to contact their House Representatives and push them into signing a House Resolution recognizing the Islamic fast, otherwise known as Ramadan.

    Yes, this is the same Council on American Islamic Relations who watched, as three of their own became convicted felons for committing Islamic terror-related and fraud-related crimes.

    The same Council on American Islamic Relations whose officers have made very clear that their desire is for an Islamic United States government, and an Islamic world.

    The same Council on American Islamic Relations who recently had a shameful mishap involving an appearing, then disappearing Islamic headscarf:
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/008110.php
    And the same Council on American Islamic Relations who, on their website, was involved in a questionable call for donations shortly after the 9/11 terror attacks. More information about this swerve can be found here:

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12470
    Once you read these portions of this proposed "Resolution," you'll better understand its manipulative nature:

    1) "during this time of conflict, in order to demonstrate solidarity with and support for members of the community of Islam in the United States and throughout the world, the House of Representatives recognizes the Islamic faith as one of the great religions of the world;"

    (2) "and in observance of and out of respect for the commencement of Ramadan, the Islamic holy month of fasting and spiritual renewal, the House of Representatives acknowledges the onset of Ramadan and expresses its deepest respect to Muslims in the United States and throughout the world on this significant occasion."

    With CAIR's record (if it is the voice of the Muslim community in the United States), why should our elected officials whom we, not they, put into office to represent America, not Islam, participate in such a signing?

    What would a House Resolution such as this lead to in the future?
    Imagine: members of this organization and others like it carrying around with them copies of a document, signed by the members of the American government, stating that Islam is one of the world's great religions, which has the deepest respect of the United States House of Representatives. An innocuous pro forma declaration? Maybe. But could it be thrown up to government officials and American law enforcement whenever a critic of Islam stands up and exercises what is (for now) his or her right to free speech, or when law enforcement officers arrest another Muslim?
    Could it be used to further "anti-Muslim hate crime" bills? Could it be an instrument in filing lawsuits against Americans who confront organizations and individuals that aggressively promote Islam?
    Could it be used to further push the American government to recognize Islamic holidays and declare them national holidays?
    Could this be just the beginning of more "resolutions" to further an agenda of implementing Islam in the West? Who knows? What is regrettable about this entire situation is that some Americans, out of the goodness of their hearts, are still willing to give Islam in America the benefit of the doubt. After seeing Islamic terror all over the world, which has occurred in various ways since the inception of Islam some 1400 years ago, some of us are still willing to aim for pluralism. Pluralism isn't a bad thing. Hell, Americans are one giant plurality, but it won't work with intolerant people who believe that their way is the only acceptable way. Qur'an 48.29: "Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another."
    Yes, there are decent Muslims in the world who are intelligent enough to understand that the Qur'an is anything but moderate.
    Unfortunately, even in the U.S., there is far more than a small minority of Islamists who danced in the streets on 9/11, who have set American flags ablaze in the vacant side streets of New York (under police protection of course), and who constantly scrutinize American law enforcement as it pertains to the ongoing arrests of Muslim criminals in America.
    These people would sooner see our throats sliced as talk to us. They wish for Islamic law in America, and are here with conquest, not coexistence, in mind.

    As the masses become more aware of what lives among us, everyone -- conservatives and liberals -- must understand that the right to free speech that we so deeply cherish, along with all of the other freedoms that are afforded to us in this country, would be eliminated if Islamists ever had their way.

    Disagree with our politicians all you want, but please remember this: We may not always get along or agree on our nation's issues, but we are all Americans. We live in the greatest nation on earth. If anyone doesn't believe that, let them travel to Riyadh or Tehran and try to launch a mass protest or demonstration like those are free to launch here. Go ahead, see what happens.

    In early 2004, an American named Nicholas Berg was bound, outnumbered, very alive, and very awake when Muslim cavemen sawed off his head. Shortly after, CAIR initiated a petition entitled "Not in the name of Islam," which was to be signed by Muslims who didn't want their religious brothers killing in the name of their religion. To date, even with two to three million Muslims in America (CAIR's count of 6 to 7 million is vastly inflated), the number of those who've signed is considerably less than what peaceful human beings would expect:
    Current Petition Progress:
    6 9 0 , 0 4 7
    (Individuals and Members of Signatory Organizations)
    Now that's a small minority.

    Meanwhile, with regard to this "Ramadan resolution": contact your Representative and ask him or her what CAIR (and Islam in general) have contributed to the land of the free and the home of the brave that would make a resolution of this type appropriate or justified.

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