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Are There Amillennialists Among Us?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by TCGreek, Aug 7, 2007.

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  1. TCGreek

    TCGreek New Member

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    1. Amillennialism is the view that there will be no millennium, no earthly righ of Christ. The great final judgment will immediately follow the Lord's return and issue directly in the final states of the righteous and the wicked.

    2. Are there Amillennialists among us?
     
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  2. Brother Bob

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    That is just one thing the Amill believe. You can't label some one an Amill just because they believe as Jesus said, the Kingdom has already come. Why not just accept the word of Christ?
    But if what you say, makes and Amill, then just call me one.
     
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  3. TCGreek

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    I also mentioned the judgment.
     
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  4. Brother Bob

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    I believe that too, the scripture says there will be silence in Heaven for space of 1/2 hour and no one was allowed to enter the city until His wrath was pour out. The best I remember, haven't read it in a while. Seems to me all Calvinist would about have to be, but then you are Calvinist.
     
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    I find the position interesting. There is so much of Revelation that is symbolic, I can't understand why so many refuse to consider the 1000 years may be symbolic as well (as well as many other things, especially the "numbers".)

    peace to you:praying:
     
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    In answer to the OP, obviously one is here, claiming to be a-millenial.

    And yes, even among Baptists, you can find all major points of view on eschatology, from preterism, to so-called historic millenialism, to a-millienialism, to post-millenialism, to pre-millenialism, and many flavors of some of these, especially pre-millenialism.

    Ed
     
    #6 EdSutton, Aug 7, 2007
  7. pinoybaptist

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    Count me number two.

    Amil. No thousand year reign.
     
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  8. Brother Bob

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    Is this a first agreement between us?
     
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    I am an amillennialist.
     
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    Maybe #2:laugh: :thumbs:

    peace to you:praying:
     
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  11. TCGreek

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    You are wrong on the Calvinists inevitably turning out as Amillennialists.
     
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  12. Brother Bob

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    What will the Calvinist do in the thousand year reign, everyone is already chosen. It don't make sense (scratch head)
     
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    Me too.

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  14. Brother Bob

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    Who said I was all alone on this board. Praise the Lord!!!!!
     
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  15. TCGreek

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    1. Dr. John MacArthur is a Calvinist who is premillennist and this is what he says about amillennialists: "So I say, leave amillennialism to those kinds of people who do not believe in the sovereign unilateral irrevocable divine electing power of God. Leave it to the semi-Pelagians and Pelagians who go in and out of salvation. It makes sense for their theology."

    "Whether you are a pessimistic amillennialist, or an optimistic amillennialist, that’s a post-millennialist, you don’t know what to do with prophetic truth because if you interpret prophetic truth in the same normal natural way you interpret all the rest of the passages of Scripture, you’re going to end up a pre-millennialist. It’s inevitable. And so you have to change the rules of interpretation."

    2. He is a premillennialist and a calvinist.
     
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    Seems he had the same problem as some on BB, forgot the words of Jesus about the Kingdom. I can't see where literal kingdom to come would make sense to his beliefs.
     
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    So are you going to apologize to the Calvinists on BB? :laugh:
     
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  18. Brother Bob

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    Why, they are signing up as Amill, except you. :)
     
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    1. Then we have John Piper, another Calvinist, who is a Post-Millennialist:"Why am I a post-tribulationist, that is, why do I look forward with great anticipation not to a sudden departure from the world for seven years but to a great gathering to meet the Lord in the air as he comes with his mighty angels in flaming fire to establish his earthly kingdom, giving rest to his people and judgment to his enemies?"

    2. Piper rejects the Pre-trib view.
     
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    Whoops, count me in. Calvinist. Pre-millenial. I do not believe the 1,000 years is THE kingdom, however. I simply believe there is a future 1,000 years of earthly rule for Christ. I also reject pre-trib, and there is no such thing as the "tribulation period".
     
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