Baptists disagree on the meaning of baptism in . . .

Redundant. The term universe, catholic is extra Biblical at best. In late copies of the NT is used in some of the titles of letters translated "general."

 

Many Baptists dislike that term, as they associate it with Rome, but in the Bible, refers to the entire body of Christ!

 

It is not a Biblical term, except in some of late Greek NT book titles such as in, THE GENERAL EPISTLE OF JAMES.

 

Which might have been one of the earliest NT books!

 

Well the term "catholic" was apparently first used in the third century in the forged letter attributed to Ignatius of Antioch to the Smyrnaean church where the phrase "the Catholic Church" is first used, η καθολικη εκκλησια. The Catholic teaching of Eucherist being the flesh of Christ is taught in that letter.

 

Universal Church is taught, but not the Rome version of it!

 

My objection is you make a claim the title that is unproven. Baptists cant disagree its is at the foundation of being a Baptist. Unless you believe it is by immersion then you are not a Baptist no matter how many Baptist churches you attend.

You made no attempt to prove your claim only assumed it was true then obfuscated when asked about it. That is my objection.

 

His point is valid though, in that there are passages when some read water there, others the Holy Spirit !

 

That term was only used in some titles of late copies of the NT letters.

On the contrary the earliest use of the term, the Catholic Church, was in that forged letter teaching that the Eucherist was the flesh of Christ.

 

the term just needs to be divested of the Roman Catholic taint on it....

 

Baptism means immersion, and is not at issue in this thread. I do not understand how you can missunderstand.

 

How? The term usage originated with the Catholic Church in the third century.

 

Read your title. Nough said

 

Baptists disagree on the meaning of baptism in . . .
. . . in . . . what?

 

@JonC
My thinking for this thread was more along the lines of understanding a passage in terms of water immerion or regneration with the immersion of the Holy Spirit being meant. The idea of baptism being other than immersion was not an issue.

 

So, the question is: Is the greek word "baptizo" always about water, or is it about other things as well?

When baptism is used in the Bible, must it always refer to water baptism or does it sometimes refer to immersion into something other than water?

Is that what you are asking?

 

It is my understanding, the Greek term for "baptism" without other qualifications, I understand it to refer to water baptism.

Passages which do not solely use the term meaning immersion without some other type of qualification, I understand can refer to other than water immersion.

It has been my understanding the passages referenced in my OP baptists have disagreed whether or not they refer to water immersion.

 

Baptism imo symbolizes the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ.it acknowledges compliance with Bible teaching. It gives the receiver the opportunity to confess Christ publically. For some it's the reception of the Holy Spirit. In some churches it means membership in that particular church.

Entering in to baptism for me was compliance with scripture and afterwards was a blessing I'll never forget
MB