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The Anabaptists denied that a person is saved by faith alone.[2]
The Montanists taught that “God, not being able to save the world by Moses and the Prophets, took flesh of the Virgin Mary, and in Christ, His Son, preached and died for us. And because He could not accomplish the salvation of the world by this second method, the Holy Spirit descended upon Montanus, Prisca, and Maximilla, giving them the plenitude which St. Paul had not (1 Corinthians 13:9). [1]
The Novatians refused readmission to communion of baptized Christians who had denied their faith. [3]
“For proponents [of Baptist Successionism], writes Fr. Dwight Longenecker, “the fact that there is no historical proof for their theory simply shows how good the Catholic Church was at persecution and cover-up. Baptist Successionism can never be disproved because all that is required for their succession to be transmitted was a small group of faithful people somewhere at some time who kept the flame of the true faith alive. The authors of this “history” skim happily over the heretical beliefs of their supposed forefathers in the faith. It is sufficient that all these groups were opposed to, and persecuted by, the Catholics.”
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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Earth Wind and Fire, Apr 11, 2020.
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EWF: Please! Do tell us WHICH Baptist church you finally found that shapes up to YOUR standards. I do recall threads in the 'Baptist Only' forums of your frustration that you would have to drive HUNDREDS of miles to find a proper one. Please don't blow the question off by answering that ANY protestant sect (yes, Baptists are indeed Prots) would be better than those evil Cat'licks. I remember you getting all excited about finding a WELS congregation (Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod) that you thought might fit the bill until you discovered they didn't have the same interpretation of the 'biblical' meaning of 'Born Again' that other 1600 Prots had finally discovered. Oh, and then there was the idea of having your own 'bible-believing sect' meet in a bar. What happened to that?? Keep looking, buddy! Some sect somewhere believes and practices Christianity as you think they should!
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Now here is what I could do though.... infiltrate back into the Roman Catholic Church and begin my own reformed movement. My agenda in that endeavor would be “truth” not Catholic religious dogma. And believe me, I could do that. That way I could kill two birds with one stone. That way I could kill your beloved institution much quicker than your myriad hypocrites could ever dream. Fortunately God is already doing that, at least here in NW NJ. The young people are leaving in droves. If they haven’t been deterred by the disgust of your dogma, they look for something better. Evidence all these new non-connected Christian churches popping up.
Frankly I could always find the Irish Catholics in pubs and in AA meetings. The Eastern Europeans who are here are now congregating at the non-denomination churches in the area, and the Germans basically just leave and don’t return to anything organized. So you see, I’ve done my homework regarding my area (town, county, State). And the only real presence in the RCC around here are people in they are in their 70’s to 80’s who represent the body of the church and their Covids primary targets (379 died in NJ yesterday). Hmmm the old dropping dead and the young wanting nothing to do with the CC. Perhaps that’s my calling, one I could totally enjoy making my life’s work... save the laity with truth! -
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and the proof for RCC in 33 AD?
I know what Matthew & Acts says
So why doesnt the Bible say Upon this rock I will build the Roman Catholic Church?
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Now, let's look at the local Baptist churches preaching their cheap gospel. Over 80% empty and several contemplating closing or joining other Baptist churches 'if they can just come to some agreement on doctrine'! I'm very in tune with the pulse of the churches in this area. Most mainline churches are even in worse shape. The Presbies will soon close, the UMC will soon split and might not survive over the 'gay' things. The ELCA church is losing members FAST over the 'gay thingy', The UCC church is ready to close (gay thingy again), Well Spring Baptist Church (Baptist) is splitting over doctrine. They got some LGBTQXYZ issues of their own, and, on and on it goes. So, The Catholic Church is reaping many new members and will formally welcome them in when the 'plague' is over. Seems like here, the Old Baptists are the ones dropping dead and the young want nothing to do with your dying churches.
The Catholic Church is growing and growing throughout the world. Those are the STATS. If the Catholic Church is dying, why do the statistics show that it is the fastest growing church in the world??? Prove me wrong! -
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Now let's see just how many different Baptists associations (don't kid yourself, they are denons or they would not be saying that the Holy Spirit led each one of them into a 'New Truth':
- Alliance of Baptists
- American Baptist Association
- American Baptist Churches in the USA
- Association of Reformed Baptist Churches of America
- Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists
- Bapticostal Church International
- Bapticostal movement
- Baptist Bible Fellowship International
- Baptist Missionary Association of America
- Central Baptist Association
- Christian Unity Baptist Association
- Conservative Baptist Association of America
- Continental Baptist Churches
- Converge (formerly Baptist General Conference)
- Cooperative Baptist Fellowship
- Enterprise Association of Regular Baptists
- Free Will Baptist
- Full Gospel Baptist Church Fellowship
- Fundamental Baptist Fellowship Association
- Fundamental Baptist Fellowship of America
- General Association of Baptists
- General Association of General Baptists
- General Association of Regular Baptist Churches
- General Conference of the Evangelical Baptist Church, Inc.
- General Six-Principle Baptists
- Independent Baptist Church of America
- Independent Baptist Fellowship International
- Independent Baptist Fellowship of North America
- Indian Bottom Association of Old Regular Baptists
- Institutional Missionary Baptist Conference of America
- Interstate & Foreign Landmark Missionary Baptist Association
- Landmark Baptists
- Liberty Baptist Fellowship
- Macedonia Baptist World Missions
- Mainstream Baptist Network
- National Association of Free Will Baptists
- National Baptist Convention of America, Inc.
- National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc.
- National Baptist Evangelical Life and Soul Saving Assembly of the U.S.A.
- National Missionary Baptist Convention of America
- National Primitive Baptist Convention of the U.S.A.
- North American Baptist Conference
- Old Regular Baptist
- Old Time Missionary Baptist
- Original Free Will Baptist Convention
- Primitive Baptist Universalists
- Primitive Baptists
- Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.
- Reformed Baptist
- Regular Baptist
- Roger Williams Fellowship
- Separate Baptist
- Separate Baptists in Christ
- Seventh Day Baptist General Conference
- Southern Baptist Convention
- Southwide Baptist Fellowship
- Sovereign Grace Baptists
- Two-Seed-in-the-Spirit Predestinarian Baptists
- United American Free Will Baptist Church
- United American Free Will Baptist Conference
- United Baptist
- Unregistered Baptist Fellowship
- World Baptist Fellowship
- Worldwide Baptist New Testament Missions
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one-fifth of the total U.S. adult population, according to Pew Research Center’s 2014 Religious Landscape Study.
That study found that the share of Americans who are Catholic declined from 24% in 2007 to 21% in 2014.
13% of all U.S. adults are former Catholics –
2% of U.S. adults are converts to Catholicism
there are 6.5 former Catholics in the U.S. for every convert to the faith.
Many U.S. Catholics say they want to see the church make significant changes
1) allow priests to marry
2) half of say the church RCC should recognize the marriages of hom0sexuals.
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