Drinking Alcohol Poll--

I am serious.

By the way, my Bible says the same thing you as the verse you posted in the quote.:wavey:

 

Sue/SFIC/anyone else interested,

Have you ever eaten something sweet in front of a diabetic before? We have sweets at church all the time during lunch, and we have diabetic members. Do you not think that you're eating something that smells and looks wonderful would tempt them to eat something that could cause them to literally die?

I honsetly don't understand the condemnation here. I mean, it is one thing to say, "I don't drink because I feel like if someone were to see me drinking that they would get the wrong impression and it could hurt my witness." I can completely understand that stance. But the others who claim that all of us are "sinning because someone, somewhere might see us and want what we're having" is one of the lamest excuses ever. If people don't have any self-control, then maybe they should just stay at home in the dark.

Those of us who have a little nip every now and then are no worse than those of you who eat sweets. In fact, I would say the greater chance for making someone stumble is with you. So, there!

You bunch of sinners.:laugh:

 

I think this has more with eating meat sacrificed to idols than it does with diabetes. Diabetics don't need to drink either because the alcohol elevates our sugar.

 

This thread is about alcohol, not sweets and diabetics, in case you had not noticed.

The Word teaches abstinence from alcohol, so it is a lame excuse to hide behind the 'you may be offending a diabetic' line. Using sweets and diabetics does not negate the fact that God's Word says fermented wine is forbidden.

You can rant and rave about sweets all you want, but the Word of God tells us to eat. And it even mentions the fact that we are to eat that which is sweet. But nowhere does the Word of God tell the Christian it is ok to drink fermented beverages in moderation... nowhere.

I will leave you to your folly. But just remember, when asked why you drank that which God forbade, don't think you can give God the excuse that you did not know it was forbidden.

 

Don't rely on Slick to competently refute anything relevant. He has a campaign and will always connive at it by word right off the top of his head-- as if anything could stay there.

 

Who is Slick?

 

Joe,

It is alcott's attack on my character. He continues after I have asked him to stop. Other's have told him to stop. months ago, a moderator told him to stop. He has not stopped as you can see.

 

Oh, thanks for the explanation. I saw the name Slick a few times, so I wondered who it was.

Alcott, is there some reason you continue to attack SFIC's character through name calling?

 

Alcott??????

 

Alcott, that is enough. I, who am not in agreement with standingfirminChrist, on this question, at least according to what I have posted, have three times now asked you not to use that moniker for the person in question, because he asked you not to use it.

BTW, neither am I in agreement with you, according to what I have posted on the subject, either. For I have not posted a stand on this, in the thread at all. But I have read the entire thread, and am annoyed that any poster has so little regard for another poster, as to disregard the poster's wishes, and is breaking one of the BB rules which is to "show grace to other posters". I have been nice, but have given you final warning on this, as a fellow member. The next appearance of this will result in a "report post", from me, as well as notifying every Administrator and the Moderators of the particular forum. If you do not hear me, maybe you will hear them. And I have no more influence with "the Baptist Board brass" than any other member. But I can still type, even if slowly. :type:

Ed

 

I will also report it in the future.

 

Obviously, you cannot count. Yours was post #255. :D

Ed

 

Misinterpreting "stumble"

I agree that this verse is misused. For one thing, we have too broad a definition of "stumble". Somehow the idea of offending someone has gotten lumped in, but the point of "stumble" (from the context) is causing a weaker brother to sin against his own conscience; not causing him to yell at you and tell you you're a dirty sinner or a "fool".

 

I don't believe I condemned anyone.

That's not my job...it belongs to God.

All I did was post a verse of Scripture.

If it convicted you, that's not my problem.

I have reported you for the repeated misuse of SFIC's user name. There is nothing edifying about making fun of someone's moniker.

 

This is an issue on which I do not agree with SFIC, but he is my friend. Even if he were not, he is a brother in Christ. He has asked you time and time again to not call him Slick. Even if he had not, he has a handle.

I have yet to see it further a cause/argument to call someone something other than his/her chosen name. It is not in anyway shape or form gracious.

 

Alcott, you are bit off base today for this one.

 

True. I agree with SFIC on ... OK, well, not very much. He's a fundy Baptist & I'm a liberal Pres, but he is a brother in Christ. We should be gracious even - perhaps especially (??) - when we disagree.

 

If others can use a verse out of context, and contrary to its true meaning, to make a point then so can I.:smilewinkgrin:

 

1. That was more for folks like SFIC.

2. Amen

3. That, you did

4. It didn't...I will continue to have real wine in communion service at church, just like your and my Baptist forefathers did, and just like has been done in the church since Christ first instituted it.

5. Why would you report me? I wasn't the one calling names.:confused:

 

1. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the "causing a brother to stumble" argument when it could be just as easily applied to sweets as alcohol. To borrow a phrase from Sister Sue, if it convicted you, that's not my problem.

2. No it doesn't. My excuse is no more lame than your refusal to see that Christ drank wine and that Christ made wine; fermented.

3. I wasn't aware that I was ranting or raving. I don't care about anyone eating sweets. I was making a point about taking the stumbling argument to the same conclusion in other things. It's not my fault if you don't want to hear that your eating a piece of candy might cause a diabetic brother to stumble.

4. And I'll leave you to your folly. I don't plan on telling God I didn't know. The fact is that I do know that fermented wine is not forbidden. Now, you are the one who needs to be ready to give account to God when confronted with the fact that you criticized so many of your brethren because they were partaking of that which God in the flesh partook of. Of course, I don't know if you really even consider us brethren anyway with some of the things you say.

It is my sincere and earnest desire that you will pray about all that you have said and repent for the things you have said about those of us on the BB, as well as your forefathers in the church, even if inadvertently.