I am glad that one denomination does not rule the roost. Give one denomination dominance and bad motivations follow. Such as the spirit of Jezebel (control, persecution, domination), hatred, strife, ego, and every evil work. Which caused the Europeans at one time to declare, "In the name of God begins all mischief," which was said to be an old German proverb.
If your denomination is a persecuted minority there wonderful spirits will follow. And a denomination that was originally good can become evil, even to the point of being comparable to witchcraft and voodoo.
If tongues were to cease at the end of the world, why would Paul need to mention it?
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by 1689Dave, Apr 20, 2019.
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Being in the persecuted minority also brings forth much beauty. You can sense a miss of this type spirituality after the Roman empire turned to Christianity.
"Therefore I say, He ordained that we should undergo death for the faith, which each man should do for the communion of the Church. For Christianity makes progress by the deaths of its followers. For if death were feared by the faithful, no man would be found to live with perfect faith. For the Lord Christ says, 'Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.'" (John 12:24) Petilians discussions with St. Augustine.
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Back in the 1920's my church, The Merrimac Pentecostal Holiness church, was a persecuted church. They would throw rocks, break windows, and do everything to quiet us down. The persecution only saw the church to grow as people would go there to see what was going on and by 1938 it seemed like everyone seemed to be going there. Revivals would go for weeks and my grandfather would stay working the busy altars into the AM hours, and granny would say he would have no problem arising for work very early in the morning. Now there is no persecution our attendance is way down.
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Pagan Pentecostalism: Its Roots: Sex, Sin & Slavery First Edition
by Curtis Edwards
Tongues speaking makes people high and relieves stress. And many today think this is the Holy Spirit because of the buzz they get doing it. But today's tongues are nothing like the originals in Acts. Speaking in Tongues: Glossalalia and Stress Reduction -
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I had a book ministry at work in which some guy, after reading one of the testimonial books, wanted to get saved but not in my Pentecostal Holiness church. I had a friend I knew as Ray who was baptist, so I took him to a Calvinist Baptist church. Well, they had a Franklin Graham testimonial film that Sunday night and my friend goes up to get saved... Only... There is no altar! Some guy gets my friend and takes him to a Sunday School room and begins to talk all that doctrine.... Now get the picture... Here is a guy ready to receive Christ with tears running down his cheek and he is getting doctrinalized! I was thinking to myself for the crying out loud say the sinners prayer! Let him acknowledge Christ so he can go through to salvation!
My friend ended up getting saved that night so I am glad I went. But, my gosh, what complicated methods of salvation! -
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My family from Floyd County, Virginia....
1. Work on a job Mo-Fr
2. The entertainment was revival, farm work, or family
3. Town on Saturday dressed decently
4. We had prayer meeting in those days Saturday night
5. Very much 'Walton' like in their ways.
Charles Stanley also came from the Pentecostal Holiness church and here is his story....
I was particularly struck by this as I traveled back to my hometown of Dry Fork, Virginia, to celebrate the 100th anniversary of Emmanuel Pentecostal Holiness Church—a church my grandfather, George Washington Stanley, planted.
In 1915, 10 believers who’d been meeting as a house church invited Grandad to hold a revival. He set up his tent at the corner of Johnson Road and Dry Fork Road and preached his heart out. By the end, the church grew to 35 members. The next year, in November 1916, that small group of believers invited my grandfather back to be pastor, and he accepted.
Grandad was the minister of Emmanuel Pentecostal Holiness Church only until 1921, but you should hear the way they still talk about his impact on the congregation and community. As I walked through the church, one person after another grabbed my arm to tell me how Grandad had led a dying loved one to the Lord, how God had done miracles of healing through him, and how he’d changed Danville for the better. It touched me deeply to know families there had passed down these stories from one generation to another. But what struck me even more profoundly was the spiritual legacy that continued in that congregation. After 100 years, it was still healthy and reaching people with the gospel.- Enduring Witness -
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After the Lord saved me, I wandered unknowingly into Pentecostalism. While there I saw lots of debauchery in the clergy. (Which is also common today). And worldliness in church meetings that would make a nightclub owner blush. I also remember seeing a pianist twitching and foaming at the mouth with eyes rolled back in her head. While playing along with the "praise band" whose hypnotic beats would make the Rolling Stones sound like the Vienna Boys Choir. One dedicated soul went home and poured gas on herself and lit a match. While one Word of Faith preacher was busy killing over 100 people including kids who had easily treatable ailments. And it goes on. But this is just a sample of my treacherous bouts with Pentecostalism.
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RESULTS:
Among the baby boomers, Pentecostals had significantly higher six-month and lifetime rates of depressive disorder, anxiety disorder, and any DSM-III disorder. Mainline Protestants had the lowest six-month and lifetime rates of anxiety disorder and the lowest six-month rates of any DSM-III disorder, whereas conservative Protestants had the lowest six-month and lifetime rates of depressive disorder and the lowest lifetime rates of any DSM-III disorder. These relationships among baby boomers were weaker among middle-aged and older Protestants, although a new association with alcohol abuse or dependence emerged among older Pentecostals. When analyses were stratified by frequency of church attendance, associations between psychiatric disorder and Pentecostal affiliation were strongest among infrequent churchgoers, a group also unlikely to seek help from mental health professionals.
CONCLUSIONS:
Young adult Pentecostals in the Peidmont area experienced high rates of psychiatric disorder, which was not generally true for Pentecostals who were middle aged or older. Infrequent churchgoers appeared to be at greatest risk, although they seldom sought professional help for their problems.
Religious affiliation and psychiatric disorder among Protestant baby boomers. - PubMed - NCBI -
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If there is any psychiatric disorder people need to get back to the original Pentecostal foundation, the way to the Baptism in the Holy Spirit in Metaphor to the Hebrew Temple this image was penned by Seymour himself...
1. Justification - Faith to enter in
2. Salvation - Christ is our sacrifice
3. Sanctification - "Sanctification makes us clean on the inside." - William Seymour, architect of this doctrine. Foot washing was an ordinance of the Azusa Street mission and if this ordinance is properly followed it will leaves an incredibly clean feeling on the inside.
4. Bible Reading - At the Table of Shewbread
5. Spiritual Fruit - At the Lampstand
6. Prayer and Praise meetings - At the Altar of Golden Incense (forgive the mis-spelling)
7. The Baptism in the Holy Spirit - In the Holy of Holies -
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