Is salvation available?

These things Isaiah said because he saw His glory, and he spoke about Him.
Nevertheless many, even of the rulers, believed in Him, but because of the Pharisees they were not confessing Him, so that they would not be excommunicated from the synagogue; for they loved the approval of people rather than the approval of God. (John 12 and the opportunity of salvation)

 

I answered correctly concerning Calvinism's doctrine that God has ordained (predestined) whatsoever comes to pass.
Do the lost, living today, have an opportunity for salvation, or is the outcome of their life a foregone conclusion? Calvinism says "a foregone conclusion" but scripture says the kingdom of God is at hand.

 

So what of the people that DID see Christ's miracles and rejected Christ?

Now it happened on another Sabbath, also, that He entered the synagogue and taught. And a man was there whose right hand was withered. So the scribes and Pharisees watched Him closely, whether He would heal on the Sabbath, that they might find an accusation against Him. But He knew their thoughts, and said to the man who had the withered hand, “Arise and stand here.” And he arose and stood. Then Jesus said to them, “I will ask you one thing: Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do evil, to save life or to destroy?” And when He had looked around at them all, He said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” And he did so, and his hand was restored as whole as the other. But they were filled with rage, and discussed with one another what they might do to Jesus. - Luke 6:6-11 (NKJV)​

 

Is it not also written:

“There is none righteous, no, not one;
There is none who understands;
There is none who seeks after God.
They have all turned aside;
They have together become unprofitable;
There is none who does good, no, not one.”
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... are these words not also true?

So YES, the kingdom of God is at hand, but "men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed" THEREFORE "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him".

ALL of the verses must be true, not just some of them.

 

The gospel presentation with or without great illustrations of its truth, provides a choice, and many choose to reject it.

 

I have addressed this passage dozens of times, but the Calvinists seem unwilling to accept the passage does not say "no one ever seeks after God..."

 

Do the lost, living today, have an opportunity for salvation, or is the outcome of their life a foregone conclusion? Calvinism says "a foregone conclusion" but scripture says the kingdom of God is at hand.

Two very different gospels...

 

And still have not dealt with my post.

 

you do the SAME with mine! :Roflmao

 

And still have not dealt with my post.

Any one can play this game....

 

Which of your posts did I not deal with Van?

 

No, God will indeed save out all of His elect in christ, and He also has chosen to use us to spread the good news of the gospel unto others now!

 

Which is false. I answer your posts, you just don't like the answers.

 

you respond, but not always "answer".

 

Right

Right, you don't like my answers.

 

well Dude, some are not even what the Bible says! Like John 3:16, where it is clear that God , loves the entire human race, that He sent Jesus to die for them. You only disagree, because you are "reformed/calvinist". Simple

 

Except that isn't what John 3:16 says. In fact, John 3:16 doesn't say who Jesus died for specifically. It does say he loves the world, and implying the entire human race as a collective. It does not speak about individuals and there are PLENTY of other verses that show Jesus did not come to save every individual.

 

For so greatly did God love the world that He gave His only Son, that every one who trusts in Him may not perish but may have the Life of Ages

this LOVE of God is for the salvation of ANY of those in the entire world, who will believe. The "everyone", or "whosoever" in the Greek is πᾶς, which is in the singular number, meaning, "each and every". Not "collective", you can check the Greek yourself

 

Yeah there are two parts to the verse. God loved the world. STOP. That is its own part. BECAUSE God loved the world, his creation, he gave us Christ. That whoever, but it is not just whoever, there is a qualifier, that whoever believes, will not perish.

Notice this verse says nothing about WHO Christ died for. It does not say everyone, it does not say the elect. It doesn't deal with that question. The only question it deals with is what happens for those who believe and those who do not believe. You are trying to make it answer a question it does not address.

 

You put a stop because your theology cannot accept that Jesus died for the entire human race desires that all are saved