Rockson wrote: “Yes Dave but still falls far short of answering why he was surprised and marveled at their unbelief. There would be no surprise of that whatsoever if he had a Calvinists view that they couldn't believe anyway unless God put it in them.”
Yes, Rockson, if it were possible to prove your doctrine…… (the doctrine which allows men the freedom to choose to believe that which they naturally detest, as well as the ability to make good and holy use of their unregenerate, evil will through receiving and believing spiritual truth)…… by citing one Scripture taken out of context, then you have won the argument.
Let’s use the same rule book and examine another verse. It concerns the deceased Lazarus:
[When Jesus therefore saw her weeping, and the Jews also weeping which came with her, he groaned in the spirit, and was troubled.]
34 And said, Where have ye laid him? They said unto him, Lord, come and see (John 11:34)
Rockson, if you believe Jesus is both fully God and fully man as all orthodox Christians should, then how do you explain Jesus’ ignorance of what should be easily known to Him, since He is God in the flesh?
Taken out of context, this Scripture proves Jesus was not God, according to your rule book.
Do you now see the incongruity and absurdity of your rule book?
Dave Gilbert certainly does.
Jesus Marvelled At Unblief! Why?
Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Rockson, Jul 19, 2018.
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He marveled at the extent of unbelief, or lack of action or why they would not believe as He gave them faith to exercise.
It is the same meaning as
Mat 11:17
And saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented.
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“For he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world that we may be holy and unblemished in his sight in love.” (Ephesians 1:4) -
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We are not Holy at all, just forgiven
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Whenever Jesus saw faith, he knew their sins were paid for in the atonement soon to take place.
If that's not the definition of looking into the future, I don't know what is...
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