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Saddam as a boy

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by TCassidy, Sep 16, 2005.

  1. TCassidy

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    Do you just make this stuff up as you go along? Richard Sales' UPI article has been thoroughly debunked.

    By the way, you accuse me of plagiarism for posting Saddam's military assets then you cut and paste, word for word, Sale's article with absolutely no attribution? I guess we can all see who the plagiarist is.

    Except there is no evidence of any sort that the CIA had any contact with Saddam prior to 1980. The CIA's own records show that.
    I am beginning to doubt you even have that. The difference between "your" and "you're" is taught in the 4th grade.
    Yes, you are.
    Or maybe you can't tell the difference between 1959 and 1980.
    Yes. I learned history in high school. Of course, that was while Saddam was busy in Egypt, but so what.
    No, the UN did not control the schools I attended. They had not yet gotten powerful enough. The schools I attended in the late 40s and early 50s were still run by local community school boards who alone made all decisions regarding curriculum and teacher qualifications. It was not until the formation of the US Department of Education in 1979 that educational standards in the US dipped to the point they produced functional illiterates who don't know the difference between "your" and "you're" or how to spell "taught."
    I sincerely doubt it.
     
  2. Bro. Curtis

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    Hey Doc, you still ridin' that Harley ?

    It is REALLY good to see you back here.

    Sorry, don't answer that. I don't want this to go O/T.
     
  3. poncho

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    If you'll go back and look you'll find that I posted the links to any information that I used.


    You seem to be suffering from an extreme case of *cognitive dissonance and *group think.


    Aesop tells a story about a fox that tried in vain to reach a cluster of grapes that dangled from a vine above his head. The fox leapt high to grasp the grapes, but the delicious-looking fruit remained just out of reach of his snapping jaws. After a few attempts the fox gave up and said to himself, ‘‘These grapes are sour, and if I had some I would not eat them."

    Aesop’s fable is the source of the phrase ‘‘sour grapes." The story illustrates what former Stanford University social psychologist Leon Festinger called cognitive dissonance. It is the distressing mental state in which people feel they "find themselves doing things that don’t fit with what they know, or having opinions that do not fit with other opinions they hold."2

    The fox’s retreat from the grape arbor clashed with his knowledge that the grapes were tasty. By changing his attitude toward the grapes, he provided an acceptable explanation for his behavior.

    Festinger considered the human need to avoid dissonance as basic as the need for safety or the need to satisfy hunger. It is an aversive drive that goads us to be consistent. The tension of dissonance motivates us to change either our behavior or our belief in an effort to avoid a distressing feeling. The more important the issue and the greater the discrepancy between behavior and belief, the higher the magnitude of dissonance that we will feel. In extreme cases cognitive dissonance is like our cringing response to fingernails being scraped on a blackboard—we’ll do anything to get away from the awful sound.

    Festinger claimed that people avoid information that is likely to increase dissonance. Not only do we tend to select reading material and television programs that are consistent with our existing beliefs, we usually choose to be with people who are like us. By taking care to ‘‘stick with our own kind," we can maintain the relative comfort of the status quo. Like-minded people buffer us from ideas that could cause discomfort. In that sense, the process of making friends is an example of selecting our own propaganda.


    Eight Main Symptoms of Group Think

    1) Illusion of Invulnerability: Members ignore obvious danger, take extreme risk, and are overly optimistic.

    2) Collective Rationalization: Members discredit and explain away warning contrary to group thinking.

    3) Illusion of Morality: Members believe their decisions are morally correct, ignoring the ethical consequences of their decisions.

    4) Excessive Stereotyping:The group constructs negative sterotypes of rivals outside the group.

    5) Pressure for Conformity: Members pressure any in the group who express arguments against the group's stereotypes, illusions, or commitments, viewing such opposition as disloyalty.

    6) Self-Censorship: Members withhold their dissenting views and counter-arguments.

    7) Illusion of Unanimity: Members perceive falsely that everyone agrees with the group's decision; silence is seen as consent.

    8) Mindguards: Some members appoint themselves to the role of protecting the group from adverse information that might threaten group complacency.


    I understand the pain you are suffering from the effects of dissonance and the need you have to seek comfort in the herd.

    I understand that you've been subjected to years of government propaganda through a complicit corporate media.

    I understand that after all these years of living in denial and taking shelter among the sheople facing reality isn't going to be automatic and painless for you. So in the interest of fair play and Christian forgivness I'm not going to react to any more of your insults in like manner. [​IMG]

    * note * You'll find that I posted links to the information contained in this post at the begining. ;)
     
  4. TCassidy

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    Well, one of my 5 motorcycles is a Harley. [​IMG]
    I will get back to you when and if I decide it is good to be back. [​IMG]
    Ooops. Too late. :D
     
  5. TCassidy

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    Not a single attestation in the post I quoted.

    The rest was snipped due to its being sophomoric. You must really be desperate to resort to such a pathetic attempt to make it appear somebody other than myself does my thinking for me when, in actuality, such only applies to you.

    I really am sorry your self-portrait is such a vivid demonstration of your depressing life. But all is not lost. You can still break free of all that propaganda you ingested in those sub-standard schools you attended. Just look at the Baptist Board logo. It really works.
     
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