That question has already been answered. Refer to my first response to your first question to me.
Should a Christian police officer lie?
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Salty, Mar 7, 2022.
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2) When I asked my question - in post # 19 -- "So if you have told even one lie - does that mean you are going to hell?)
Your post in #14 could be interpreted as someone who has been referring to someone who has a lifetime of lying.
I am simply asking - could just one lie send someone to hell?
A simple yes or no will do. -
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Rev 21:8
But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
1Co 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1Jo 3:8
Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.
1Jo 3:9
No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s[fn] seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.
So we can conclude if a person is doing these things, regardless the reasons or profession, they ARE NOT a Christian and yes they will end up in the lake of fire if they die in their lost condition. Real Christians go to prison or even death to keep themselves from the practice of sin. I think we have lost site of what a Christian is. -
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the only needed answers is either yes or no. -
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Marooncat79 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Then by your definition, no one before the Exodus should have died and none should have been cast into hell. -
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Of course.
ALL have sinned.
Believers are NOT condemned, even if they lie (not as a practice) but as one who stands needing to have "confession (of our sin) and cleansing from all unrighteousness." That confession is not the reapplication of blood, for Christ shed the blood once. Rather, the confession is the "Godly sorrow" of the believer who comes to understand and view the affront as God does; therefore, opening their heart, mind and body to such cleansing necessary that they learn from their actions.
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I think what you are trying to ask is the "practice" of lying that often accompanies one who is not a believer.
The Scriptures place the principle that the practice of a sin is perhaps an indication of the lack of true conversion, or one that has set aside that which they have been redeemed from and embrace it again.
For a believer to "practice" sinful living is to expect God to rebuke and even to remove them from this living so they do not continually stain His name.
For one to "practice" sinful living and not have the evidence of God's rebuke in their life shows a lack of being redeemed. -
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1) Christ shed His blood once for all sin. Sin does not send one to hell. The lack of belief does so very nicely. (See John 3)
2) No one who practices (without rebuke from God) a sinful living is redeemed (letters of John).
3) There is NO condemnation from past, present, or future concerning the believer. For all believers are "in Christ" and have the Holy Spirit of God within them. (Romans).
4) The quality of living and the seriousness of sinful ways are what is shown at the final judgement of God. (Revelations) -
However, it is not our responsibility to investigate the heart of another person, but examine ourselves as to whether we are "in the faith" or not.
The unsaved may certainly have worldly repentance more often considered by statements such as: I'm sorry, my bad, I messed up, that was wrong, ...
But the believer (according to Paul) has Godly sorrow, which leads to forgiveness and life (that is not eternal life or hell, but life as that not which brings the cessation of physical viability).
The letters of John have much concerning these things that folks more often grab one phrase or a verse and think all is well.
However, John is rich in expressions of doctrine and believer treatment of both sin and unity. -
Psalm 19:13 King James Version (KJV) 13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression. King James Version (KJV)
Leaning on grace to do sin is presumption. So again. It IS NOT OK for a believer officer or any other profession to lie under any circumstances. Let the lost pile up their sins against God and the believer walk in the Spirit. -
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