WALKING IN THE SPIRIT

Yes we are supposed to walk in the Spirit, and if we do that then no we will not commit any of the sins you listed or any others for that matter.

The problem is we do not always die to self and walk in the Spirit. Sometimes we allow the flesh to win the battle. And there is no telling what the flesh is capable of when it is in control, especially if it has been denied for a great amount of time.

And unfortunately there are Christians that allow the flesh to win a majority of the time and there are still other Christians that never even understand there is something different.

I am just finishing up a fantastic book on this subject called the Salvation of the Soul by Watchman Nee. It is a great read about living the life of victory.

 

The victory of life is Chirst. The mystery of life is Christ. Your salvation is complete when you ask for salvation and than learn to live in God. You can learn through the Word. Even the profits did wrong and that is because of the flesh. Live each day as it is your last because you never know when God will call you home and if you are living in and by the Word and the world, God allows you to make mistakes, He of all people know that the flesh is weak that is why He sent His son. He knows we are weak. Why do you debate about the Spirit when God has given you His Spirit to guide you each day to that walk of salvation. without the Spirit you are already lost to the World and its possetions.

 

by the way Christ is the new covenant. So to answer you We are under the new covenant. the old covenant was done away with when Christ died for us.

 

Some people believe that Heb: 8:7-13 is referring to the second coming and the millenium.

Some believe that Ezek: 36: 24-30 is referring to the last days.

Dr. Jack Van Impe subscribes to this theory.

 

Claudia I don't think anyone has claimed that we can walk in the Spirit and committ adultery or worship idols.

A caged animal. That's a pretty good description. Have you heard stories about the most Godly people that when they ar elderly and are drawing to the end they become some of the meanest, nastiest people? That's because they have denied the flesh for so long, but once that sucker gets loose you better look out

 

"I mean, dont you all even believe that God writes the Law upon our hearts?"

Maybe in special cases but not generally else the Church is less than one percent of professed members.

 

Why the big deal in America about privacy if the Law is written on our hearts? Why would we need to keep things secret? Maybe it is written in Hebrew and we can't read it.

 

JJ,

You are talking about denying the flesh through human (LAW) means instead of through the Spirits Power, right?

SMM

 

SMM I guess I'm not following your question. Denying the flesh doesn't have anything to do with the law. I think the Holy Spirit enables you to deny the flesh, but doesn't actually do it for you.

Is that what you were looking for?

I can only guess as to why people do things. And my guess as to the legalists point is because you and Brother Bob have insisted that if someone doesn't keep the law that they are not saved.

We are supposed to keep the law, but the only way we can do that is by denying our flesh to rule our life and allowing Christ to manifest His obedient life in us moment-by-moment. Unfortunately even worthy servants and overcoming Christians don't do this enough, but the even more unfortunate side of things is there are Christians that rarely or never allow the Spirit to rule their life. But they are still saved.

Does that make sense?

 

JJ,

It was your comment about people near death turning mean and vicious because they had denied the flesh for so long that got me to ask clarification...

I can understand a person who really didn't have Faith and was trying to meet a bunch of human requirements getting mean and vicious near death...

But, not a child of God who had denied the flesh in the Power of the Holy Spirit...

SMM

 

Some Christian!!

 

Yeah there are very Godly people who are not very Godly at all during their final days just because they don't have what it takes to keep pushing the flesh down.

The flesh never goes away. We will have the sin nature until the day we die. And until that last breath the flesh is going to try to rule what goes on.

There are times when for whatever reason the person is not able to deny the flesh in their final days and it's not a pretty sight sometimes.

 

Thats what will happen if you spend your whole life fighting sin with no hope or expectation of reward.

 

Its called when the mind goes because of lack of blood supply. Like when a kidney fails or heart gives out. Old saying once a man twice a child. Also like those who never matured but stayed as a small child in mind. Where little is known little is required.