Reformed1689 said: ↑
So Adam was created as a baby?
Once again a Calvinist asks a question which implies I hold unbiblical views.
These folks have no regard for truth. The wine at Cana appeared to have existed as grape juice, which had grown on vines, and slowly ripened day after day in the sun.
Did I say God did not create things with apparent age.
Nope.
Did I say everything we find that indicates great age is actually young?
Nope
See post #16?
I never attacked the idea that God did not create some things with apparent age!!!!
I believe Adam was created as an adult, as there'd be no one to care for a baby. And so was Eve. I'd say God told A&E how to care for babies when Cain was born.
Are you sure of this? Many believe the last ice age to be the end result of the flood.. There would be massive global cooling with a whole earth flood. Part of the earths thermostat is the polar ice.. As the ice melts, we get more water. Due to this the earth cools. and we get more ice. which lowers the water level. more land
warmer earth.
Am I sure evolutionists choose the oldest date possible?
I am sure.
For example Time magazine had a cover story that Eve had lived about 25,000 years ago.
But in less than two years, that date was moved to 200,000 years ago.
Am I sure when the last Ice age covering California occurred?
No.
I was just pointing out that some scientists believe it occurred less than 12,000 years ago, but you will see stories that the Tar Pit shows animals living 40,000 years ago.
Highly unlikely if the area was covered in ice.
How big were the trees in the garden? How many growth rings did they have?
And God saith, 'Let the earth yield tender grass, herb sowing seed, fruit-tree (whose seed in itself) making fruit after its kind, on the earth:' and it is so.
I believe God created Adam and took the woman from him at a stage of reproduction.
360 days after creation Adam was 1 year old.
Not totally convinced the virgin woman take from Adam wasn't with child.
dinosaurs were Not on the ark.. which possible or DID lead to their extinction... Now... in rgards to Job... we can believe one of two possibilities.. either Job.. lived before the flood... as the exact date Job lived has not been definitely ascertained... or
the Leviathan.. refered to in Job.. was a sea creature (monster)... and hence would still be alive at a time after the Ark... remember not every creature was destroyed.. only air breathing ones....
if you believe that dinosaurs were on earth before man then you must believe in the gap theory.. which is a farce.. you would have to believe that death was on God's world before satan got here.. or that satan fell to the earth from Isaiah 40.. and was responsible for the death of the dinosaurs... then God recreated everything again while satan was lurking about to destroy God's creation a second time..thru sin...
I believe that no dinosaurs were on the ark and all air breathing ones died at the time of the flood.. so either a).. Job lived before the flood.. or b) the leviathan was not an air breathing dinosaur...
there are beliefs which a former pastor of mine preached that the wine of Jesus' day was Not the same wine that we know of today....pastor used to teach that the wine of Jesus' day was fermented or aged... and yes.. Jesus could very well have created it in that state...
I am a Calvinist... but I resent implications that we Calvanists ask stupid questions... non Calvinists can seem ignorant at times as well..
AND which of the 5 points of Calvinism do you disagree with?.
there are a lot of false teachings out there today.. maybe some have some truth I don't know.. I've read things such as Cain and Abel were born as twins... Adam had another wife... Lilith..Eve gave birth to babies before the fall..etc.... perhaps this is just another strange belief.. that Adam was born as a baby.. and Eve
was his mother?.. I don't know....
it could be that there actually was No Ice Age... only a period of time when the Earth's climate was below normal... so many things are placed in the hands of scientists who trust in carbon dating.. which tells them earth is millions of years old... but their devices could be flawed they are man-made.... how do we know for sure....?.. I would believe the dates of the bible over man's dating.. and NO I do not believe in the gap theory... so I am out on agreeing to an Ice Age or a million year earth...etc...
as far as Eve stating .....acquiring a man with Jehovah?. many bibles state by Jehovah.. or with the help of Jehovah... we have to realize... if we believe Cain was the first born... Eve perhaps did not understand reproduction... and perhaps in her mind.. thought that God... miraculously gave her a baby.. or allowed her to birth one... Eve was naive to the fact that her and Adam coming together in the relationship caused this birth... she probably realized it though..... after she witnessed the kind of child Cain turned out to be.. that the Lord.. does Not bless people with a curse...!..
One question that arises is when did the "Flood" occur?
I think the biblical answer is less than 7000 years ago.
But certainly "dinosaur like" animals (gators and other large reptiles) existed less than 7000 years ago, so at least "prototypes" were on the Ark.