2020 election--a better choice

[Yeshua1]

That is true, but by default. He is only doing so to continue to gain your support.
I still would like a better choice in 2020.

You can judge his heart, and you can discern that he is all fake in what he is advocating?

 

[Dayle]

You can judge his heart, and you can discern that he is all fake in what he is advocating?

I only judge by looking at his past life.
What I see is a man who changed where he stood on many issues so that he could be elected.
Have you really looked at where he has stood and who and what he supported before he suddenly became the darling of Christian conservatives.
I did and decided very early that he wanted to be president and would do and say and take what ever position to accomplish that goal.

I WANT A BETTER CHOICE in 2020.

 

[777]

The problem is, Trump never had a political life before, he never had to vote on any bill, so I doubt he thought through his positions, and it showed when he ran for the nomination. But I can see why conservatives like him - he ended TPP, got through a huge tax cut, banned trannies in the military, the wall is finally being built, and he's handled the Norks well. This was all done while he was crippled under a witch hunt led up by a bunch of Democratic operatives.

Politics could be too mundane for some, but if you want a better choice next year, you will have to go D and vote for Joe Biden if you think he's a better choice than Trump. Hmmmm……..

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I believe that some are putting more trust in what Trump can or will do than what he actually will or can do.

Who doesn't wish Trump could accomplish more good? But he has already accomplished a considerable amount despite the extreme leftist/progressive opposition he has encountered from the Dems and the MSM. RINOs have also seriously undermined important efforts. But perhaps the worst part was what Obama and his minions did prior to leaving office. That story is yet to be fully told.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I only judge by looking at his past life.
What I see is a man who changed where he stood on many issues so that he could be elected.
Have you really looked at where he has stood and who and what he supported before he suddenly became the darling of Christian conservatives.
I did and decided very early that he wanted to be president and would do and say and take what ever position to accomplish that goal.

I WANT A BETTER CHOICE in 2020.

Had he merely postured to get elected, perhaps you would have a good point. But he stood by his positions, has worked tirelessly to achieve the goals and implement the agenda he set.

Politicians daily pretend in order to get elected then immediately abandon their promises. Trump has hardly done anything like that. He has been what he professed.

 

[Dayle]

The problem is, Trump never had a political life before, he never had to vote on any bill, so I doubt he thought through his positions, and it showed when he ran for the nomination. But I can see why conservatives like him - he ended TPP, got through a huge tax cut, banned trannies in the military, the wall is finally being built, and he's handled the Norks well. This was all done while he was crippled under a witch hunt led up by a bunch of Democratic operatives.

Politics could be too mundane for some, but if you want a better choice next year, you will have to go D and vote for Joe Biden if you think he's a better choice than Trump. Hmmmm……..

Been a long time since I voted for a Democrat in a national election.
There are only two that I would maybe consider. Bob Menendez and Joe Manchin and they ain't running---YET.
Not that I would vote for one of them, but they are the only two that would even get my consideration.

 

[Benjamin]

Never-Trumpism is so yesterday and those who claim not to be democrats yet still wishing to promote and be on that wagon and beat those drums for the next election have simply lost touch with reality, are double-minded, in denial of their true partisanship or all 3.

 

[777]

I never was a neverTrumper, but I wasn't really crazy about any of them last time at all - Trump was untested but anyone was better than Hillary. The mailman's son and Mittens are still running their mouths about Trump as of today. He stole their party.

Been a long time since I voted for a Democrat in a national election.
There are only two that I would maybe consider. Bob Menendez and Joe Manchin and they ain't running---YET.
Not that I would vote for one of them, but they are the only two that would even get my consideration.

I wonder when was the last time for you - I'd guess Carter if you were of voting age at the time, you're new around here.

This is really your business, but I can understand thinking about Joe Manchin - pro-life, pro-2A, but Bob Menendez? Seriously? The corrupt pedophile? His background makes Trump's look like a choirboy's.

 

[Dayle]

Never-Trumpism is so yesterday and those who claim not to be democrats yet still wishing to promote and be on that wagon and beat those drums for the next election have simply lost touch with reality, are double-minded, in denial of their true partisanship or all 3.

Well to suggest that there are no Conservatives, Republicans, or Christians who do not support Trump, is foolishness.
There were many who voted against him in the primaries that would never vote for a Democrat.
I am a Conservative, Christian, Independent that 99% of the time has voted Republican.
Don't like Trump. Don't trust Trump. Do not believe he is a Conservative, Christian, or Republican. Trump is always about Trump and always has been and always will be.
I want a better choice in 2020.

 

[Dayle]

I never was a neverTrumper, but I wasn't really crazy about any of them last time at all - Trump was untested but anyone was better than Hillary. The mailman's son and Mittens are still running their mouths about Trump as of today. He stole their party.



I wonder when was the last time for you - I'd guess Carter if you were of voting age at the time, you're new around here.

This is really your business, but I can understand thinking about Joe Manchin - pro-life, pro-2A, but Bob Menendez? Seriously? The corrupt pedophile? His background makes Trump's look like a choirboy's.

The only Democrats I have ever voted for are a few in local elections and one for Congress about 20 years ago.
As I said, I might consider. Would do a lot of investigation as I always do.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Trump is not a Republican just as Bernie is not a Democrat. So what? You are not a Republican either. Trump has been pro-America, which is far better.

Trump is not an established Conservative. So what? So many Republicans are noncommittal or RINOs. Trump has acted more Conservative than most.

Trump seemed nominally Christian. So what? He has been open to the influence of those who are mature. Carter, Clinton, and Obama were abysmal "Christian" presidents.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

By the way, I especially don't trust politicians. Even worse are the MSM and the lockstep Dems. So, while we're putting in our orders for 2020, I'd like to replace the MSM with actual journalists, the Dems with pro-American representatives, and the Reps with bona fide statesmen.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

He doesn't murder children fresh out of the womb.

That you are aware of. He did ask his second wife....

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Never-Trumpism is so yesterday and those who claim not to be democrats yet still wishing to promote and be on that wagon and beat those drums for the next election have simply lost touch with reality, are double-minded, in denial of their true partisanship or all 3.

Your opinion and you do know what opinions are like, right?

 

[HankD]

That you are aware of. He did ask his second wife....

What difference does it make, no matter what he asked or did then, that was then - THIS IS NOW.

Neil Gorsuch and Bret kavanaugh are his SCOTUS choices - real evidence of his current feelings.

 

[Wingman68]

God does not choose perfect men, He chooses men perfect for the job.

 

[Benjamin]

Well to suggest that there are no Conservatives, Republicans, or Christians who do not support Trump, is foolishness.
There were many who voted against him in the primaries that would never vote for a Democrat.

I never claimed there were no Conservatives, Republicans, or Christians who do not support Trump, that would be a fallacious argument on your behalf. I'm claiming this Never-Trump strategy amounts to a ploy to deprive the Republican Party of votes, was full of inflated and false accusations and is exposed for what it was as per the merits of this President, so yesterday.

I am a Conservative, Christian, Independent that 99% of the time has voted Republican.
Don't like Trump. Don't trust Trump. Do not believe he is a Conservative, Christian, or Republican. Trump is always about Trump and always has been and always will be.
I want a better choice in 2020.

I suspect you were on the Never-Trump band wagon in 2016 and would have unwittingly left the country’s fate in the hands of Hilary rather than vote for Trump but like I said this mindset is so yesterday, and I doubt you will find many that will be falling for that ploy next time around considering his accomplishments. You’d be better off to find another reason to fail to support the Republican Party’s (“Conservatives, Republicans, or Christians”) values and/or to try to convince others to jump on this washed up band wagon again because Trump has proved himself as being a fighter for the values for which he promised and was elected for.

 

[Dayle]

I never claimed there were no Conservatives, Republicans, or Christians who do not support Trump, that would be a fallacious argument on your behalf. I'm claiming this Never-Trump strategy amounts to a ploy to deprive the Republican Party of votes, was full of inflated and false accusations and is exposed for what it was as per the merits of this President, so yesterday.




I suspect you were on the Never-Trump band wagon in 2016 and would have unwittingly left the country’s fate in the hands of Hilary rather than vote for Trump but like I said this mindset is so yesterday, and I doubt you will find many that will be falling for that ploy next time around considering his accomplishments. You’d be better off to find another reason to fail to support the Republican Party’s (“Conservatives, Republicans, or Christians”) values and/or to try to convince others to jump on this washed up band wagon again because Trump has proved himself as being a fighter for the values for which he promised and was elected for.

Believe what you want.
Your assessment of Trumps accomplishments and mine are very different.
I hope he is successful but so for I am disappointed it his job.
My decision not to vote for him was made on election day and I never tried to sway anyone to make the decision I did.
A persons vote should be very personal and one should never be swayed by the beliefs of others.
Any person that can be swayed by what others believe and not by their own investigation and much prayer should not vote at all.

I just could not with a clear conscious vote for the man.

I see I am in the minority here and that is fine with me.
Been there before.
I still hope for a better choice in 2020.

 

[Revmitchell]

So when did we turn away from the things you listed?
Most of the problems this country had when Trump took office are still very much here and growing.

Please by all means enlighten us to the facts of your claim.

 

[Revmitchell]

His stand on pro-life, gay rights, and Israel has changed in recent years so as to gain "Christian" support.

Prove it