Are the majority of those on the BB hostile to the IFB's?

I'm not talking about the preacher's opinion.

Let's say someone watches South Park, you think it's wrong to tell them it's a sin to watch that show?

 

I've never watched South Park so I can't really comment specifically. I have heard it is pretty bad, so if it's contents violate scripture then you are pretty safe in saying it is wrong, but again let the Holy Spirit convict not you. I find the closer people draw to Christ the less they watch and listen to questionable material. Not watching and not listening doesn't make you more Christlike, but being more Christlike will make you not want to watch or listen to sinful things.

Now, would you tell someone it is a sin to listen to "Rocky Mountain High" by John Denver.

 

Well, Is sin going against God's will?

Is it God's will that we put him first - First commandment?

Does southpark put God first?

 

Well, Is sin going against God's will?

Yes

Is it God's will that we put him first - First commandment?

Yes

Does southpark put God first?

Does Monday Night Football put God first?

 

How is a person convicted by the Holy Spirit?

According to the Bible, the preached Word convicts the sinners. With you thinking, the Word would never be preached.

Romans 10:14

Ephesians 1:13

 

Ok, I'm answering your questions why won't you answer mine? Would you tell someone it is a sin to listen to Rocky Mountain High by John Denver?

You can't get convicted without a preacher?

So apparently you don't think somone can be rescued from the music of Elton John without sitting at the feet of a preacher.

But you said:

Originally Posted by Spoudazo
I'm not talking about the preacher's opinion.

So are we talking about preachers or not?

 

I'm a bit confused here. It seems as if the people who made some the recent posts are saying that it's ok and honky-dory if you listen to the world's music industry. Praise God for the people taking a stand against the world's music and those on this board who support it. Hmm...what should I listen to...a singer attempting to glorify the God of Heaven or a queer seeking self-advancement and fame. I think the choice should be obvious...

 

(1) God's way of sending out the message of the Gospel of Christ is through a preacher, though all someone needs is the Bible.
1 Corinthians 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

(2)John Denver? If he didn't sing music that was honoring the Lord and live a life that backed it up, I'd tell the person to stay away from it.

A preacher may have an opinion on, for example, the apparel of a preacher when he stands in his pulpit (like my pastor requires preachers to wear a suit coat and tie to preach in our pulpit). However, the preacher isn't giving his opinion when he says the rock group Metallica or any other rock group is wicked and sinful to listen to. He is preaching something that's based on God and His Word.

 

Then I would say that most in IFB churches are hypocrites if this is the standard.

I believe we have, through this little exchange, demonstrated why people have problems with IBF's.

 

That’s right, all they need is a Bible and the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit will do His job.

So it is a sin to listen to John Denver.

Why do you pick the extreme groups? Does he say it is a sin to listen to Celtic Women or the Irish Tenors? If not why not? Where does he draw the line and why?

 

Indeed. I'm an IFB, so narrow minded I can look through a keyhole with both eyes, so conservative I think Rush Limbaugh is too socialist, so strict I won't even have a TV (much less watch one), and so independent I won't even work for someone else. (I'm self-employed). In my ordination I had to promise to fight the devil as long as I've got a fist, bite him as long as I've got a tooth, and gum him 'til I die. I preach from the same KJV I was preaching from on the streets thirty years ago, and I even pray in the same language I learned from the prayers in that book. I guess I might be called "seeker insensitive."

But I haven't elicited hostility from anyone here over these things. I've been content to state my position and let it go, or to support it with reasons I think the other side might understand, and then agree to disagree.

There is bad blood between IFBs and others, and it seems to stem from the IFB penchant for condemning others, and the others' penchant for ridiculing IFBs. Each is certain to fuel the other's fire, and I see no hope for improvement so long as human nature remains as it has for the last, oh, 6,000 years. :tongue3:

 

(WARNING: ATTEMPT AT SARCASTIC HUMOR AHEAD)

Pipedude, you may be all that, but you can take that pipe of yours and join Spurgeon in Hell and smoke the place up!!!!!! >:l

 

It's a bubble pipe.

 

Pipedude!

You mean to tell me that every time I saw your pix and imagined I was smelling rich pipe tobacco, I should have been smelling detergent instead??? I'm crushed!

As far as hostility. I do see some hostility, but not much. AND rather than it being towards a specific group (like the IFB), it seems to be from one or both sides in those hot topic debates.

 

Well, I work in an open shop that allows the men to play everything from the classics to the dreaded rap. If its sin then God has placed me in a position that I am forced to listen to it for my whole shift.

I am IFB (a little to the right of Ghangis Khan) and I do not think it is a sin to listen to secular music but if I had my drothers I would much rather listen to praise, soft ambiant or Celtic without words and turned down low so I can think or study while I listen.

The music presented during church worship should be God honoring in every respect what is listened to apart from church is up to the liberty (shame on me for using that hideous word) of the individuals. As they grow in Christ and in age I would hope their styles of music will change as well. If not they stand or fall to their own Master not me.

thjplgvp

 

No, no, you should, indeed, have been smelling rich tobacco smoke.

That is to say, so long as we are imagining things, we should imagine them as we wish them to be, since we (the Arminians, at least) are free to do so.

Those who wish to think me a smoker can imagine that, those who wish otherwise can imagine that, and those who highly suspect that that silhouette isn't actually me at all can imagine that.

"On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog."

 

You're one Arminian I'd be happy to smoke a pipe with, brother.:thumbs: :flower:

 

Most of the IFB'ers do well on this board. Keep in mind that some IFB types are Calvinist and some are Arminian if there are only two choices.Anyhow you can talk about anything as long as you keep civil and mind your manners,that seems to work most of the time.:tongue3: