Charlie Sheen Questions 911 official story

No such thing is happening! Christians know their first allegiance is to God Almighty. Christians should recognize the power of civil government but, in our nation, have the added blessing of having one in which the ultimate power belongs not to a King but the people themselves. They have freedoms people not that long ago ever thought possible and struggled greatly to attain. They also have responsibility because we, in effect, are the government. We can not blame our government's wrong doing on an evil King. We can, in the end, only blame ourselves. We do need to show reasonable respect to the persons, and the offices of those persons, placed in positions of authority over us whether at home, at work, at school, at church, or at law. That doesn't mean we can't and shouldn't challenge and seek to correct wrong doing for the benefit of the common good and well being of others. We are not subservient to our government but we do need to recognize and respect the power of the people it represents.

 

Wait. You wanted a US commercial jetliner to be shot out of the sky? Dont take any vacations via plane. You might be mistaken for a hijacked jetliner and shot down, remains landing in a school yard somewhere between your house and Disney World. That's a nice thought.

Id feel safe thinking qualified personnel were operating the planes that fly over our heads at all altitudes at all hours of the day. Id feel safe thinking that if someone were to whip out some car keys and start slitting throats of passengers and crew, some noble person would stand up to them. You asked.

 

Lean on his work and fat on his personal side. Was he always dazzled by the bright lights and big cameras of the media?

 

The list is not conclusive of anything when compared to the obvious facts of four airplanes being hijacked and flown into selected targets by a group of terrorists belonging to Al Qaeda resulting in the death of about 3,000 Americans and others. [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]Oh come on Dragoon...this one is my favorite:
9/11 - Engineer Steve DeChiaro says he was perplexed that a plane had crashed into Pentagon by seeing only a small hole in the building and seeing 'no tail, wings, no nothing'. (Memphis Online). Memphis is a long way from Washington DC. And the Pentagon is bigger than most people think.

 

When planes hit buildings, the wings and tail generally shear off in such a way that they remain connected to the fuselage, but flattened along the fuselage.

 

That's a good one for sure! It's kind of like looking at the entrance wound verses the exit wound and claiming the vicitm just couldn't have been shot!

 

Lean on his work and fat on his personal side. Was he always dazzled by the bright lights and big cameras of the media? </font>[/QUOTE]He was a patriot who served this country well, dying in the WTC.

 

Wait. You wanted a US commercial jetliner to be shot out of the sky? Dont take any vacations via plane. You might be mistaken for a hijacked jetliner and shot down, remains landing in a school yard somewhere between your house and Disney World. That's a nice thought.

Id feel safe thinking qualified personnel were operating the planes that fly over our heads at all altitudes at all hours of the day. Id feel safe thinking that if someone were to whip out some car keys and start slitting throats of passengers and crew, some noble person would stand up to them. You asked. </font>[/QUOTE]Actually, there is some thought and controversy about the plane in PA, which is that might be what happened.
http://www.letsroll911.org/articles/flight93shotdown.html

 

I am not sure that the timeline can be coerced to match up with a flight out of Langley (Va.)

Nor, do I believe a shoot down would leave a single crater...

Usually a shoot down results in the aircraft coming apart at altitude resulting in a wide area debris field... Especially with a two missile hit...

Also, with all the cell phones still active it is highly unlikely that no one on the ground heard someone screaming we've been shot down...

A Sidewinder strike, even two, wouldn't obliterate an aircraft that size...

Cause it to break up and crash yes...

Instantly irradicate it? No...

Even a Pheonix strike on a drone (far more powerful Missile) results in break-up not obliteration...

So, I find the "shoot-down" scenarion a bit hard to swallow. As I've seen too much Missile-Drone test footage... And, drones are much much smaller than a passenger aircraft...

I have also read reports and theories about the secondary debris fields...

But, these only make sense if the aircraft came apart at low altitude because of a fight in the cockpit overstressing the aircraft...

This is because the secondary debris fields are too close to the main crash site to have been from a missile strike at altitude...

And, there is no reason for a pilot to shoot down an aircraft already obviously not in controlled flight. A fighter may have followed it down to a lower altitude... But, I don't think a competent combat pilot would mistake an out of control aircraft for a fleeing one...

Of course we can dismiss all the cell calls that tell of a passenger overthrow and then thank the fighter pilot for a shoot down...

But, then how do we know the plane had actually turned back to be a threat. Unless we believe the passngers cell calls...

Mike Sr.

 

Dude, come on now. You know logic isn't a valid argument in the face of all these conspiracy freaks, don't you?

Give it up and enjoy the show.

 

Hey, the best "Shows" are the audience participation and interactive ones...

Maybe we should restart the Flight 800 thread?

That should *really* get 'em going...

Mike Sr.

 

Go ahead and make my day. I've always believed the Flight 800 story the Feds fed us was a coverup.

I still believe in the shooter on the grassy knoll.

 

There was a grassy knoll on the beach?

Maybe we'd better start a thread to discuss botany, geography, and environmental issues?

Or, are we going back to the Kennedy thing?

Mike Sr.

 

Yup.

 

Wait. You wanted a US commercial jetliner to be shot out of the sky? Dont take any vacations via plane. You might be mistaken for a hijacked jetliner and shot down, remains landing in a school yard somewhere between your house and Disney World. That's a nice thought.

Id feel safe thinking qualified personnel were operating the planes that fly over our heads at all altitudes at all hours of the day. Id feel safe thinking that if someone were to whip out some car keys and start slitting throats of passengers and crew, some noble person would stand up to them. You asked. </font>[/QUOTE]And you WANTED for 3,000 people to die in the WTC rather than have the two planes carrying maybe 100 people to be shot down if necessary?? I don't understand your logic.

 

"There was such a jet in the vicinity--a Dassault Falcon 20 business jet owned by the VF Corp. of Greensboro, N.C., an apparel company that markets Wrangler jeans and other brands. The VF plane was flying into Johnstown-Cambria airport, 20 miles north of Shanksville. According to David Newell, VF's director of aviation and travel, the FAA's Cleveland Center contacted copilot Yates Gladwell when the Falcon was at an altitude "in the neighborhood of 3000 to 4000 ft."--not 34,000 ft. "They were in a descent already going into Johnstown," Newell adds. "The FAA asked them to investigate and they did. They got down within 1500 ft. of the ground when they circled. They saw a hole in the ground with smoke coming out of it. They pinpointed the location and then continued on.""

(source - Wikipedia)

 

Maybe we should because grass does grow on beaches, although, I suppose a beach knoll would be called a dune.

 

Dune, Dud or Done?!?

Sorry. but I am having a "little" problem staying serious on this thread...

Mike Sr

 

Lean on his work and fat on his personal side. Was he always dazzled by the bright lights and big cameras of the media? </font>[/QUOTE]He was a patriot who served this country well, dying in the WTC. </font>[/QUOTE]So you believe two commercial jetliners full of people were gunning for him because of what he 'knew'? Yeah, there are meds for that.

The article was silly as 'news' and concrete evidicen. Might have been a great thing at his wake or something...for those who knew him.