Featured Doctrine of Unconditional Election

yes to who who cannot stand the Truth of the Bible!

 

You are denying scripture.
Luk_13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
I can only give you the message of scripture. You can either accept it or perish. Your objection is with God not me. You have to repent. No repentance No Salvation. I know this is too simple for you. Salvation has to be complicated. Luke 13:3 is a direct quote from Jesus. He is commanding all to repent.
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calvinists, hyper-calvinsts, both are way off from what the Bible teaches regarding the salvation of sinners. as both deny that Jesus Christ died for the entire human race, including Judas!

 

Prove we don't have to repent. You say it's a rabbit trail it is not it is Jesus demanding repentance.
Luk_13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
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They are Gnostic. in there doctrines.
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Paul repented you can bet your life on it. Pauls saving does not support Calvinism.
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Did Paul repent before God could meet him on the road? Was the cause, Paul repenting, and the effect, God meeting Paul on the Damascus road? If so, can you show us from the text of scripture? Both Acts 9 and Galatians 1 will be your source.

I don't care about Calvin. I do care about scripture.
We both recognize that repentance does happen. Where we are in disagreement is at what time in the order of salvation.

You require repentance before salvation. Thus, for you, repentance causes God to save.
I require God to make a person alive before salvation which causes repentance.
In your model, the center is humans. In my model, the center is God.

 

Where does scripture say Paul was saved on the road to Damascus. I don't see where Paul was saved on the road. You are reading into the scripture again. Paul did not receive the Holy Spirit on the road either. This below says when he was saved.
Act 9:17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.

This shows you are not the biblical wizard you'd like to be.
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Paul received his Commission right there, and he was saved then!

 

It is interperted Saul was saved on the road to Damascus based on Jesus' instructions to him Acts ,26:14-18 and his testamony having seen Jesus, 1 Corinthians 15:8.

 

Interpertation is the problem then you see the Holy spirit entered Paul three days after the vision he had.We aren't saved with out the Spirit being with in us.
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First you prove he was saved during the vision. Scripture only.
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No. You explain why not per Acts 13:31 Jesus showed Himself to a yet lost person and tells this yet lost person, Acts 26:17-18, " . . . now I send thee, To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me."

 

Act 26:17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
Act 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.


These scriptures have nothing to say about Paul's Salvation. I assume that you think this happened at the vision sight but it does not say that at all. Why do you assume that this happened right away at the vision?
Act 13:31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
This also does not say what you claim.
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Wow. It is no assumption, but of what Paul said had happened, Acts 26:14-18, ". . . And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee; Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee, To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me."

Paul's account is given three times in Acts. Each with other details of the one event.

 

This still does not say Paul was saved during his vision.
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Fine, it does not say it, the way it must say it, for you to believe it. Your view makes no sense to me yet.

How, if at all, do you separate what Jesus told Saul in Acts26:14-18? Or what Jesus in verse 17-18 to a yet lost man? That makes no sense. Or how do you understand Jesus telling him not yet save what Jesus is going to have him do? Please explain.