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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Van, May 18, 2021.

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  1. Dave G

    Dave G Well-Known Member

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    I'll agree with you in that instance.
     
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    Bogus argument. 2 Thessalonians 2:13 that God chose us for salvation 'from the beginning,' but we were set apart by the Spirit and thereby believed the truth in time.
    Bogus argument. God chose us in eternity, but effectually called us in time, causing us to believe and to be united in Christ.
    Bogus argument. The verses say nothing about when we were chosen, but 'known to God from eternity are all His acts' (Acts 15:18). But until we believed we were still under God's judicial wrath, and it was not until we believed that we obtained mercy, although that mercy had been decreed from the beginning.
    Bogus argument. In our nature, we are sinners, and the act of election does not change that. God's mercy was decreed in eternity past, but did not come to us until we believed.

    I hope now that you see how changing what Keach wrote was such a calumny against him. We are absolutely not saved in eternity; we are chosen for salvation in eternity but saved in time.

    I also hope you now see how irritating the constant use of the word 'bogus' is and will stop using it as a cover for the vacuity of your own arguments.
     
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    And that's the part where you get to say why the question is not fair. If you're going to be snappy about it, at least point out the evil.
    What you really mean is "That question is embarrassingly difficult to answer".

    And what way is that, pray tell.
     
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    How many times have you misrepresented scripture such as denying the men of Matthew 23:13 were seeking God in their natural unregenerate state? Endlessly
     
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    Boilerplate post, non-specific and never mentioning the men were seeking God in an unregenerate state.
     
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    Right, you say white is the same as black, one is the same as two, and before is the same as after. This is the mindset of all Calvinists who simply rewrite scripture to mean what they want it to mean.
     
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    Complete fiction with no reference to specific posts.

    Matthew 23:13 teaches unregenerate men were seeking God. Full stop. And the rebuttal? "Taint so."
     
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    Here is the quote: "This is a bogus quotation from Keach and you should be doubly ashamed of yourself for not only perpetrating a deception upon the readers of this thread, but then repeating it."

    The OP did not claim the content was quoting Keach. It explicity said it was a reformed and revised version using only the valid parts of a prior article. So the charge was false and represented an attempt to bully me by claiming I did what I did not.
    I made no attempt to deceive, but instead attempted to present truth.

    But did you or any Calvinist call out the poster? Nope, so you Sir are an enabler.
     
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    False, I provided the entire dialogue Jesus had with the religious leaders in Matthew 23. Be very honest...you refuse to consider that you may be wrong and therefore you will not look at the whole passage. You will only look at the one verse and then you will demand that your interpretation of the one verse is correct. Van, you are as stubborn as the Pharisees Jesus addresses in Matthew 23. Deal with your self.
     
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    When you stop posting bogus arguments and absurd nonsense in defense of obviously false doctrine, I will praise it.
     
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    Yet another "attack" post, with You, you, you throughout. And of course this poster claims to be able to mind read, telling others I do not consider alternative views. And finally, name calling "Van is as stubborn as the Pharisees."

    But not a whisper concerning the thread topic.
     
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    How many times do I have to tell you that you are reading that into Matthew 23:13? It doesn't actually state that.
     
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    And you do the very thing you accuse others of doing, don't deal with the arguments.
     
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    This thread is closed
     
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