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One Gospel?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by OldRegular, Jul 23, 2005.

  1. ituttut

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  2. OldRegular

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    The Gospels according to ituttut:

    1. the gospel of the Law and the Prophets

    2. the gospel of John the Baptist

    3. the gospel of Paul of Believe on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved by the Grace of God,

    But no Gospel of Jesus Christ:

    1. No John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

    2. No John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    3. No John 10:26-30
    26. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
    27. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
    28. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
    29. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.
    30. I and my Father are one.


    4. No Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    Woe are we, woe are we, woe is us; there is, according to ituttut, no Gospel of Jesus Christ. We are still in our sins, close the Forum!
    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

    By the way John the Baptist had been beheaded before the "great commission" was given by the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ.
     
  3. OldRegular

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    To show how convoluted ituttut's doctrine? is consider his statement:
    I assume OSAS means once saved always saved but I can't be sure. But consider how asinine this statement is: believers in Jesus Christ are guaranteed eternal life but not OSAS. And it gets worse: we are not informed that Jesus Christ shed His blood until after Paul is converted on the Damascus Road which occurred many years later, strange to say the least.

    1. Poor old Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. [Genesis 5:24] didn't know he was saved because this cannot happen until He sheds His blood, and we are informed of that fact, which is after Damascus Road.

    2. Poor old Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.[James 2:23] didn't know he was saved because this cannot happen until He sheds His blood, and we are informed of that fact, which is after Damascus Road..

    3. Poor old Job, not only suffered on this earth but didn't know he was saved even though he said [Job 19:25-27]:
    25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
    26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
    27 Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.


    all because this cannot happen until He sheds His blood, and we are informed of that fact, which is after Damascus Road..

    4. Poor old Moses died there in the land of Moab and God buried him but Moses didn't know he was saved because this cannot happen until He sheds His blood, and we are informed of that fact, which is after Damascus Road..

    5. Poor old David said of his first child by Bathsheba But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me. [2 Samuel 12:23] didn't really know what he was saying because this cannot happen until He sheds His blood, and we are informed of that fact, which is after Damascus Road..

    6. Poor old Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.[2 Kings 2:11] but did not know he was saved because this cannot happen until He sheds His blood, and we are informed of that fact, which is after Damascus Road..

    7. Poor old John the Baptist did not know he was saved because he was beheaded for preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ because this cannot happen until He sheds His blood, and we are informed of that fact, which is after Damascus Road..
     
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    The Gospels according to ituttut:

    1. the gospel of the Law and the Prophets

    2. the gospel of John the Baptist

    3. the gospel of Paul of Believe on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved by the Grace of God,

    But no Gospel of Jesus Christ:

    The gospel of Christ Jesus is His gospel that He gave to Paul, or at least that is what my Bible informs. Why do you not believe Christ from heaven, and what Ananias told to Luke? As you refuse to believe Paul, wouldn’t you say this confirms Paul’s account of what happened? ”But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: Within this one verse is the gospel of Paul to preach to the whole world. What does it say? It is so simple a child can understand, but men want to add to it in one way or the other. To bear my name! You may wish to believe, without confirmation from God, that this was always the One Gospel from the beginning. But that is asinine for no one knew by whose name they were to be saved. You have been told, and may believe what you wish, but you know you are wrong for you have too many contradictions of what you are holding onto.

    1. No John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

    John and Peter wrote their books after Paul, and Paul is the first to bring this thought and word of Jesus alive.

    Please try to remember that Jesus said He only came for His on sheep, and when this was said those Jews believed Him, and they would never accept the inclusion of the Gentile. You say you believe Jesus when He walked this earth, but evidently you don’t, for He said He came for His Own.

    2. No John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Same as above

    3. No John 10:26-30
    26. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
    27. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
    28. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
    29. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.
    30. I and my Father are one.


    Same as above

    4. No Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    Now you have it right OldRegular. This is the gospel of Paul, and he says he is not ashamed of it for it is the gospel of Christ, for those that believe. Good Work. Now if you can just hold onto this truth.

    Woe are we, woe are we, woe is us; there is, according to ituttut, no Gospel of Jesus Christ. We are still in our sins, close the Forum!
    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

    You closed on a good note of quoting the gospel of Paul. You must believe him after all because you keep on quoting him. That is a good sign of growing up.

    By the way John the Baptist had been beheaded before the "great commission" was given by the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ.
    </font>[/QUOTE]I thought the Forum closed.

    John’s gospel didn’t die with him did it? Evidently not for Jesus puts this gospel in the “great commission”, and this is the gospel that Jesus preached while on the earth. Do you reject this truth? Christian faith, ituttut
     
  6. ituttut

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    To show how convoluted ituttut's doctrine? is consider his statement:
    I assume OSAS means once saved always saved but I can't be sure. But consider how asinine this statement is: believers in Jesus Christ are guaranteed eternal life but not OSAS. And it gets worse: we are not informed that Jesus Christ shed His blood until after Paul is converted on the Damascus Road which occurred many years later, strange to say the least.

    Why do you continue to butcher my words, endeavoring to deceive others? Don’t you know if anyone else reads these post, they will know what I wrote, and wonder where you come up with these wild eyed claims of what I write.

    1. Poor old Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. [Genesis 5:24] didn't know he was saved because this cannot happen until He sheds His blood, and we are informed of that fact, which is after Damascus Road.

    Did Enoch know this while He lived? Was Enoch the first to receive a glorified Body, and to be in the Body of Christ? Are you saying Jesus died TWICE? Once for Enoch, then His own, and now the whole world. Just what other gospel are you trying to feed we here on this Baptist board. This is a NEW gospel, but I will not hear it.

    2. Poor old Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.[James 2:23] didn't know he was saved because this cannot happen until He sheds His blood, and we are informed of that fact, which is after Damascus Road.

    Do you deny Abraham and James were saved by faith? If so you do not believe God.

    3. Poor old Job, not only suffered on this earth but didn't know he was saved even though he said [Job 19:25-27]:
    25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
    26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
    27 Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.


    all because this cannot happen until He sheds His blood, and we are informed of that fact, which is after Damascus Road..

    Does He tell you he is saved through faith. He had faith, and believed God that he would be saved, but he could not be saved while he lived, but only after he died, until Jesus was crucified and shed his blood. Christ shed His blood for them as well as us, but we know we are Always Saved from the moment we believe, for Jesus Christ shed His blood for us Once, and that is enough to save the whole world. Job could know by faith in God he would be saved, but he also knew he would have to die first. Job didn’t know any Gentile would be allowed in the Temple.

    4. Poor old Moses died there in the land of Moab and God buried him but Moses didn't know he was saved because this cannot happen until He sheds His blood, and we are informed of that fact, which is after Damascus Road..

    I’ll play your part here and say, “I didn’t know that we were saved by the blood of Moses.

    5. Poor old David said of his first child by Bathsheba But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me. [2 Samuel 12:23] didn't really know what he was saying because this cannot happen until He sheds His blood, and we are informed of that fact, which is after Damascus Road..

    You cannot change scripture just because you don’t understand it. David was saved by faith, and didn’t know the name of his King. David was sacred to death while he lived for his sins, for he knew they could not be forgiven until after he died.

    6. Poor old Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.[2 Kings 2:11] but did not know he was saved because this cannot happen until He sheds His blood, and we are informed of that fact, which is after Damascus Road..

    You seem to believe some of those of Old were in heaven, with new bodies before Jesus Christ? Is that what you are trying to say? Again, that is some kind of New gospel you are trying to put forth. It is preposterous

    7. Poor old John the Baptist did not know he was saved because he was beheaded for preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ because this cannot happen until He sheds His blood, and we are informed of that fact, which is after Damascus Road..
    </font>[/QUOTE]Why is it John the Baptist went into the “bosom of Abraham” at his death in this earth just like all the rest. He had to die and wait for the blood of Jesus Christ to be shed, before he could have the actual assurance that we have as soon as we believe.
    This gospel that you are teaching is the blood of animals saved them Once and For all Time That is a false gospel you preach.

    YOU SAID YOU WERE ENDING THIS FORUM, BUT HAVE NOT, SO I AM ENDING IT AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED IN ANSWERING YOU ON THIS SUBJECT. I’M SURE WE WILL TALK AGAIN MY FRIEND.


    Christian faith, and see you around. Ituttut.
     
  7. OldRegular

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    ituttut

    As far as I am concerned you have not posted one item on this Forum that is consistent with Scripture. Hyperdispensationalism is heretical.
     
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