Salvation/Loss of the soul

No that was actually HoG that dealt with your issues on Strongs. I have not changed my position, because you are attributing something to me that I didn't say, but that's pretty normal for you

That choice is yours, but you will be sticking with man-made tradition and not the Truth of God's Scripture unfortunately.

 

SFIC I agree with that to an extent, but your spirit was dead in trespasses and sin, and there was a moment that your actual spirit was made alive and it will never die again. Your spirit will continue to live forever, but you have a spiritual birthday, which marks the beginning of life for your spirit. That is not eternal life, but everlasting life, becuase your spirit was made alive and one that day it was made to never die again.

 

So are you denying that you have a literal spirit and that it was literally brought from death to life? Not the life that is supposed to be lived out in you, but a literal spirit in you that was dead and is now alive, do you deny that?

 

So are you denying that you have a literal spirit and that it was literally brought from death to life? Not the life that is supposed to be lived out in you, but a literal spirit in you that was dead and is now alive, do you deny that?

Simple question.

 

Well you are doing a good job of trying to cram everything into your little circle, but it doesn't all fit I'm afraid.

You try to claim this and then deny that and contradict yourself all along the way. But it certainly is obvious that you are closed minded to anything other than what you believe, so there really is no use in going forward, becuase you have all the answers.

And if in your world everyone belived the way SFIC the world would be a much better place huh Well so be it, but I will continue to trust in the Word and not SFIC if you don't mind.

 

There is nothing hard to understand there. I agree with you, but I would ask you what is so hard to understand that your spirit actually has a birthday (a beginning of life) and therefore has everlasting life. It's not one as opposed to the other, but both.

 

Please show me the verse where it says that Jesus Christ preached eternal salvation?

Here it what Jesus preached - From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."

He is preaching His kingdom which in this context is the millenial kingdom. So it looks like you are incorrect again.

 

With your question you are getting into the difficulties of trying to explain the Truth of the Trinity and how that plays out in the separation of the roles between the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

The details of that I'm not sure how that works out, because we are not given a lot of details. What we can know and what we must do is find out what is given to us through God's Revelation to mankind.

And in that we are shown that Christ will rule for a 1,000 years and at the end of that rule He will return the throne back to God and the throne will become the throne of God and the Lamb.

Seeing the 1,000-year reign of Christ in no way contradicts the eternality of God's kingdom, because God is the One in charge of appointing rulers in His Kingdom. And He will appoint His Son to rule over the earth for a 1,000 years before Christ will give that rulership back and the rule will become One again.

I hope that helps.

 

Sorry Genesis I have a time of getting your questions lost in the shuffle

We are not given a lot of detail as to what that looks like. It is described as outer darkness, condemnation, destruction and punishment to name a few.

The soul is one's agenda. What that person desires out of life. God wants us to desire what He wants, so that His will is done, not our own.

There are Christians that don't care to do God's will and still want to do their own thing. And that attitude will not work in the coming kingdom nor eternity.

So instead of the folks getting it straight in the 70-80 years or however long they live after salvation on this earth they will have to learn that lesson for a 1,000 years, because we will be doing God's bidding in eternity, whatever that might be.

One of the best examples to see is where the Lord said He was going to and did destroy Soddom and Gomorah, but the angels that came to Lot said they were going to destroy the two cities.

What happens is God declares something to happen and appoints someone to carry out the action and it is done in such a precise manner that it is as if God is the one doing it. And so if we aren't interested in obeying God now there isn't anything that magically happens to us when we die that makes us want to obey Him then, so those that don't learn it now will have to learn it then.

We will be ruling under Christ. So if we can't follow orders here why would we follow orders in that 1,000-year period?