Saved by Grace Alone, Justified by Faith Alone

You hold onto Eph 2:4-7 but do you know whats missing the word FAITH. That is why you have to include vs 8-9 because that explains how and why you are saved. It's right there in the text.
Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
Eph 2:9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

In these six verses the why and the how are laid out and we are also given the reason.

How do you miss that when it is so clear. I have shown you other texts that should help you but you are determined to ignore them.

through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace Rom 5:2

Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace Rom 4:16

Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith Gal 3:8

God saves all those that trust in His son. That is the condition He has set. Austin you are not disagreeing with me you are disagreeing with God.

 

You never fail to miss what the text says. You can't even remember what I write. But then again perhaps it is because you don't want to admit that what I write is the truth and it is not what you want to see.
You are to blind to see what I write and you are to blind to see what the text of scripture says. You are truly lost in your own world of self delusion.

 

Why do you keep parroting on ther same erroneous mantra, justification by works, justification by works? The Scripture is plain: justification is by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8; Titus 3:4-5)

 

All they have folks are false charges...

 

Paul stated that the unsaved receive not the spiritual things of God, correct?

 

God knows that none can and will accept Jesus as lord left to themselves, so he sent the Holy Spirit to make sure that all Christ died for have "saving faith"

 

I don't. I hold to the scriptural justification by faith, works, grace, blood of Christ, God, the whole enchilada.

...it's 'saved' in those passages not 'justified', but at least you never gommed it up by adding 'alone'.

 

We are justified in the sight of God by His Grace, period, not of any works we do, period!

 

Let's see; You believe in total depravity. You believe faith is a gift. You believe Gentiles are elect including you what ever you are. That's being a Calvinist IMO.
MB

 

Anyone can post a string of false charges. And not one person of integrity will step forward and point out the charges are false.

I have posted more than 100 times "total spiritual inability" (the T of the Tulip) is false doctrine.
I have posted more than 100 times "the gift of faith" (the I of the Tulip) is false doctrine.
I presented scripture which proves Gentiles are among the elect. You deny the very word of God.

I am a one point Calvinist (OSAS) and a two point Arminian (Christ died for all humanity and Conditional Election for salvation) but reject the T,U,L and I of the TULIP. I reject that God chose individuals before creation for salvation.

 

Your doctrines are just as false. You said"Nope. Our faith comes from God's" . We already have a measure of faith from we were created with it. It's increase is from hearing the Word preached.

OSAS is not a Calvinist doctrine. Perseverance of the saint is there doctrine. By them persevering they work to keep there Salvation. It's called Lord Ship Salvation. You don't even know what you are saying and this is why you are so hateful.
MB

 

Now I know you were trying to make a point here but not sure why you think you have to tell me that salvation is a gift from God. We sure do not earn it do we.

But where you are determined to avoid the text of scripture is when you deny that God requires that we believe in His son so that He can give us the gift of salvation. Faith is not a work which is something that you do not seem to be willing or able to grasp.

What do you not understand about these verses? Will you not see what is right in front of you? You quote Eph 2:4-9 so I have to ask why do you ignore what it says. It is right there in the text "by grace you have been saved through faith"
I even listed other verses that show the same thing yet you are determined to ignore them. Why? You may want to hold to the theological view that you now have but if you are shown that the bible does not support it then why do you continue to hold to it?

From what you have written you have a problem seeing faith as not being a work. But the bible tells us that it is not and we have numerous verses that show that faith is required so why do you hold to that idea?

 

So you do believe in justification by works. Just that the works are supported by the other things.
BTW, I think you did a disservice to @Silverhair by claiming that he believes in justification by works.

The second part of this is exactly right.

So you agree that we are saved by grace through faith. That's good to know. But like the Roman Catholics you want to throw in a few works. At the point of justification, our good works are filthy rags before God. Christ justifies the ungodly (Romans 4:1-5; 5:6).
Grace alone, Christ alone, faith alone, according to the Scriptures alone and to the glory of God alone (1 Corinthians 1:29).

 

He does seems to be holding to the catholic take on James view of salvation!

 

Please stop posting gibberish. I did not say "Our faith comes from God's." That is an edit, a contextomy, a vicious misrepresentation of my view done on purpose to deceive.
You can charge the Calvinists with a works based salvation till the cows come home, my view is OSAS and many Calvinists agree.
Once again you have proven your character by your post.

 

Martin what are those few good works you refer to?

 

I was referring to @kyredneck, who wrote

He had previously voted your post #94 as a 'winner.' I don't read your post as holding to justification by works, but it seems that @kyredneck does so take it up with him.
You are correct that works are the evidence for our justification (c.f. Genesis 22:12), but at the point of salvation they are of no help at all. Abraham was justified by grace through faith way back in Genesis 15:8, if not before (c.f. Hebrews 11:8).