Secular Music?

Although it is no where as evil as "It's a small world after all, it's a small world..." :laugh:

On the poll though... YES or NO is too limiting, so I didn't vote. That's like "is money evil?"

 

I know its only rock and roll but I like it, like it, yes I do

 

When I first entered the music debate (after attending an ifb class) the thing that I found most ironic was that with all the talk of "worldliness", and all the scriptures quoted ont hat taken to mean that a song shouldn't even "sound like" "the world"; not only were the four main national anthems:

Star Spangled Banner
America the Beautiful
My Country Tis of thee, and
God Bless America

acceptable; they were in many hymnals! Of course, they were of the basic "traditional hymn" form, but to include them as "sacred" music while a modern worship song was "worldly" because it had a backbeat or too much syncopation was ridicoulous, and betrayed the utter cultural issue the ifb position is!
Those are secular songs! Basically "hymns of praise" to a human country, that only "mention" God, and His supposed role in it, but more like a national mascot, as many did in practice take Him for.

 

Not to mention "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" and "Nearer, My God, To Thee," both found in pretty much every hymnbook, but penned by Unitarians.

 

How many churches sing Happy Birthday to someone during SS, or Worship?
Isn't that secular?
It is not praising God.

 

does anyone sing happy birthday while facing the nativity scene on christmas day?

hahahaha. im going to literally split a gut laughing if anybody admits to this... heheh.

 

Just take those old records off the shelf,
I sit & listen to 'em by myself.
Today's music ain't got the same soul,
I love that old time rock and roll.

 

I guess we're also sinning when we sing those "fight songs" as we're cheering on our favorite school in some sporting competition too!

And, while I'm on my soap box .......

What about much of so-called "easy listening" (a/k/a "elevator") music? Most of that is merely changing the tempo of some rock songs of years gone by that preachers used to soundly condemn and possibly throwing in some strings. If it was "sin" then, why isn't it "sin" now just because it's in a different wrapper?

 

It seems like most folks take this approach:

"I like that. It sounds pleasing to me. Therefore, it is good (for everyone)."

Or, "I don't like that. Therefore, it is bad (for everyone)."

The "I" always makes the decision for everyone else. Seems like a bad approach to me.

 

SBCPreacher, I agree. People always associate their "preferences" with being right.

 

Don't forget the Christianized second verse of the birthday song we used to sing:

"Happy birthday to you
only one will not do!
Born again is salvation [or "sufficient"]
How many have you?"

 

Only if it's for 'Bama.

 

My favorite Bama cheer is:

Roll Tide Roll! Down the toilet bowl!

 

Be sure and post a picture of your split gut.

2 years ago, our Christmas Eve communion...we had a six-year old girl sing it toward the end of the service.

:smilewinkgrin:

 

It's a little hard for me to make fun of Bama. I'm still laughing too hard about Mike Price.

 

oh boy. you're lucky i dont have a camera.
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whats the point of singing happy birthday to some idols?
considering its not Jesus birthday. that Jesus isnt a baby anymore.

pictures of Jesus. figurines of Jesus. etc. they're all idols.

 

...only if you worship the figurines themselves. This is idolatry.

 

Yes I agree. I also think Jesus would know your heart; if to be worshiping the cross as a figure -OR- simply and earnestly as a remembrance of him and his great sacrifice for us!

A lot of good thought with the music. I don't think God has a problem with music which does not necessarily mention him. We are all creations of God and he gave each of us talents. I think it more important to thank the Lord for these talents and to have reverence for him.

Who is to say a good song with a good message, was not inspired by God? The Bible speaks of joyous dancing and music with flutes and harps. How could one really apply secular or Godly values to these?

I don't see how Carrie Underwood's song "Jesus take the Wheel" could be seen as secular? An absolutely fantastic song by the way!:thumbs:

Y'all have fun. Ralph:Fish: