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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Charlie24, Oct 23, 2024.

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  1. kyredneck

    kyredneck Well-Known Member
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    Here's another verse that clearly refutes justification by our faith alone:

    9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, shall we be saved from the wrath [of God] through him. Ro 5
     
    #101 kyredneck, Oct 28, 2024 at 8:57 AM
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    "Justified by His blood" is by faith! It's not a refute, it's a confirmation of faith alone. Faith only in His blood.

    But you can't see that!

    The problem is the UR side of your belief. That is the conflicting element.
     
    #102 Charlie24, Oct 28, 2024 at 9:05 AM
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    It most definitely is a refute of your unscriptural notion of justification by our faith ALONE. More:

    13 for not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified: Ro 2
    24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Ro 3
    1 Being therefore justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ;
    9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, shall we be saved from the wrath of God through him. Ro 5
    33 Who shall lay anything to the charge of God`s elect? It is God that justifieth; Ro 8

    Just stop adding that one little word 'alone' to the gospel and all becomes well, Charlie.
     
    #103 kyredneck, Oct 28, 2024 at 9:18 AM
  4. Charlie24

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    John Calvin taught justification by faith alone. But a Calvinist that has accepted the UR has a completely different view of election.

    It looks like that is what we're dealing with here. A whole new can of worms.
     
    #104 Charlie24, Oct 28, 2024 at 9:28 AM
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    Are you a branch of the Modern Calvinists that have accepted the UR?

    It's only fair that I know who I'm talking to.
     
    #105 Charlie24, Oct 28, 2024 at 10:05 AM
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    So? What? I'm no follower of John Calvin, you are, in this case. FYI Charlie, I'm not a Calvinist, but I do share their monergism.

    Lol, I've not a clue what UR is.
     
    #106 kyredneck, Oct 28, 2024 at 11:35 AM
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    You're somewhat of a mystery, ky, never met one quite like you.
     
    #107 Charlie24, Oct 28, 2024 at 2:24 PM
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    K Charlie. You're not the first wannabe Calvinist slayer to show up here, no mystery.
     
    #108 kyredneck, Oct 28, 2024 at 4:02 PM
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    Ok, mystery man. Sooner or later you will reveal who you are.
     
    #109 Charlie24, Oct 28, 2024 at 4:04 PM
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    Reveal this mystery Charlie, what’s UR?
     
    #110 kyredneck, Oct 28, 2024 at 5:14 PM
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    Universal Restoration (UR) the belief that everyone is saved in the end, that Hell is temporary and all will be saved.
     
    #111 Charlie24, Oct 28, 2024 at 5:22 PM
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