Will the Jews build a new temple in Jerusalem?

That is not a proof text of any such thing, except Jesus speaking to that generation as KYRED has posted.

 

What verses suggest that to you?

 

robycop3,

[QUOTE]No need to try to answer a quack, although I've answered every one indirectly at one time or another.[/QUOTE]
You cannot answer us, much less him,lol

The quack follows chick tract eschatology

You calling names without any refutation proves nothing.

And yet you cannot quote any partial preterist saying such a thing. You do not understand the position.

 

Zechariah 14, Ezekiel 40-48, and many other passages.

 

Now that makes no sense to me. According to Matthew 24:20 the observance of the seventh day Sabbath will be still intact. Personally I believe Romans 14:6 and Hebrews 4:9-10 with Colossians 2:16.

 

This is a profound misunderstanding up and down the line. You suggest mt 24 is speaking of a future time when it says Jesus was speaking to those in the first century.
\You are suggesting we are not under the ten commandments, and the 4th commandment is not for Christians?

Sabbath Rest
by Sinclair Ferguson | Dec 19, 2013 | Featured, Features | 0 comments

By Sinclair Ferguson

The anonymous author of Hebrews found different ways of describing the superiority of the Lord Jesus Christ. One of them, which forms the underlying motif of chapters 3 and 4, is that Jesus Christ gives the rest that neither Moses nor Joshua could provide.

Under Moses, the people of God were disobedient and failed to enter into God’s rest (3:18). Psalm 95:11(quoted in Hebrews 4:3) implies that Joshua could not have given the people “real rest,” since “through David” God speaks about the rest he will give on another day Hebrews 4:7. This in turn implies that “There remains a sabbath rest for the people of God” (Hebrews 4:9).

In speaking of this rest (3:18; 4:1, 3–6, 8) the author consistently used the same word for “rest” (katapausis). Suddenly, in speaking about the “rest” that remains for the people of God, he uses a different word (sabbatismos, used only here in the NT) meaning specifically a Sabbath rest. In the context of his teaching, this refers fundamentally to the “Sabbath rest” which is found in Christ (“Come … I will give you rest,” (Matthew 11:28-30). Thus we are to “strive to enter that rest” (4:11).

Since Augustine, Christians have recognized that the Bible describes human experience in a fourfold scheme: in creation, fall, redemption and glory. We are familiar with echoes of this in the Westminster Confession of Faith (chapter 9) and in Thomas Boston’s great book, Human Nature in its Fourfold State. It is no surprise then that the Sabbath, which was made for man, is experienced by him in four ways.

Creation

In creation, man was made as God’s image — intended “naturally” as God’s child to reflect his Father. Since his Father worked creatively for six days and rested on the seventh, Adam, like a son, was to copy Him. Together, on the seventh day, they were to walk in the garden. That day was a time to listen to all the Father had to show and tell about the wonders of His creating work.

Thus the Sabbath Day was meant to be “Father’s Day” every week. It was “made” for Adam. It also had a hint of the future in it. The Father had finished His work, but Adam had not.

The Fall

But Adam fell. He ruined everything, including the Sabbath. Instead of walking with God, he hid from God (Genesis 3:8). It was the Sabbath, Father’s Day, but God had to look for him!

This new context helps us to understand the significance of the fourth commandment. It was given to fallen man — that is why it contains a “you shall not.” He was not to work, but to rest. Externally, that meant ceasing from his ordinary tasks in order to meet with God. Internally, it involved ceasing from all self-sufficiency in order to rest in God’s grace.

Redemption

Considering this, what difference did the coming of Jesus make to the Sabbath day? In Christ crucified and risen, we find eternal rest (Matthew 11:28–30), and we are restored to communion with God (Matthew 11:25–30).

Glory

The lost treasures of the Sabbath are restored. We rest in Christ from our labor of self-sufficiency, and we have access to the Father (Ephesians 2:18). As we meet with Him, He shows us Himself, His ways, His world, His purposes, His glory. And whatever was temporary about the Mosaic Sabbath must be left behind as the reality of the intimate communion of the Adamic Sabbath is again experienced in our worship of the risen Savior on the first day of the week — the Lord’s Day.

But we have not yet reached the goal. We still struggle to rest from our labors; we still must “strive to enter that rest” (Hebrews 4:11). Consequently the weekly nature of the Sabbath continues as a reminder that we are not yet home with the Father. And since this rest is ours only through union with Christ in His death and resurrection, our struggles to refuse the old life and enjoy the new continue.

Meeting With God

But one may ask, “How does this impact my Sundays as a Christian?” This view of the Sabbath should help us regulate our weeks. Sunday is “Father’s Day,” and we have an appointment to meet Him. The child who asks “How short can the meeting be? ” has a dysfunctional relationship problem — not an intellectual, theological problem — something is amiss in his fellowship with God.

This view of the Sabbath helps us deal with the question, “Is it ok to do… on Sunday? — because I don’t have any time to do it in the rest of the week?” If this is our question, the problem is not how we use Sunday, it is how we are misusing the rest of the week.

This view of the Lord’s Day helps us see the day as a foretaste of Heaven. And it teaches us that if the worship, fellowship, ministry, and outreach of our churches do not give expression to that, then something is seriously amiss.

Hebrews teaches us that eternal glory is a Sabbath rest. Every day, all day, will be “Father’s Day”! Thus if here and now we learn the pleasures of a God-given weekly rhythm, it will no longer seem strange to us that the eternal glory can be described as a prolonged Sabbath!

From Ligonier Ministries and R.C. Sproul. © Tabletalk magazine. Website: www.ligonier.org/tabletalk. Email: [email protected]. Toll free: 1-800-435-4343.

 

You think ezk.40-48 is a literal physical temple?

 

There is not going to be any THIRD temple that God will allow. The ONLY place that this can be built, is where there is a building for the demonic religion called islam, on it. If the Jews try to destroy this, then all of the arab nations will attack them! More importantly, the Great God of the Bible, will never allow this to be built, as HE is THE Temple!

 

Absolutely.

 

I am fully aware of what you think of DeMar and the Preterist view, but you haven't answered my point. You asked whether we think the Jews will build a third temple. I am providing Biblical reasons why I do not believe there will be a third temple.

What Scriptures prove (or even indicate) that a third temple must be built? I believe Daniel 9:27, Daniel 11:31, and Daniel 12:11 refer to the Herodian Temple. Jesus said that the AOD would happen within the lifetime of His disciples. When we compare Luke 21:20-21 with Matthew 24:15-18, we can pinpoint when the abomination of desolation was to appear. Luke writes, “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let those who are inside the city depart, and let not those who are out in the country enter it, for these are days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.” According to Luke, they would know that Jerusalem’s desolation had come near, when they saw the city surrounded by armies. Did this generation ever see a day when the city was surrounded by armies? As of matter of fact, they did. The Jews would have viewed this action as the fulfillment of Daniel’s vision when the burnt offering ceased and the abomination of desolation was set up.

 

Christ redeemed us from the Law as a means of living under it, dispensationialists want to put ppl back under it.

Christ tore down the barrier that divided Jews and Gentiles, dispensationialists want to re-erect it.

 

I understand that you think you have Biblical reasons for your views. Every Christian should have Biblical reasons for all the views they hold. I have Biblical reasons for my views, and I provide the Scriptures to back up those views. I am asking for "proof texts" that support your view that the Jews will construct a 3rd temple.

 

He has no texts.
He has never read any other view.
He offers bluster and chick tract theology.
He has every right to do that but such error is not going to turn into truth.
He has not responded to your posts.
He has no intention of doing so.

 

There is no earthly holy of holies.
The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem are the Holy place.Heb12.:22-29

 

That error in interpertation is a basis for error of preterism.
Well, applying that error to Matthew 3:11 and John 3:7 would exclude us today from the being born again. The use of the plural pronoun is not always limited to the immediate audience. See also the use of "we" in 1 Corinthians 15:52.